Fortook: If you spend much time trying to have intelligent discussions with and try to reason with BlueWarrior, you will very quickly have the urge to
He's a war monger, and probably so from spending too much time playing violent video games.
Granted, he has made a few good points in this thread, seems to have the ability to read news stories and likes the people in northern Iraq. The Kurds in Northern Iraq got majorly shafted by Saddam and almost completely exterminated so it is good that they are now living without constant fear of getting gassed.
The Hussein regime was bad news for pretty much everybody in that area of the world, including Saddam himself with the way it worked out for him, his family and cohorts in the end. Bummer for them, but luckily that is what typically ends up happening eventually to evil, greedy and violent people.
Was it worth the $$ spent and lives lost to try to help bring peace to the middle east and encourage the governments and populations of people in the area to behave in more civilized, less violent ways? I don't have an answer to that question. Maybe in a few decades or centuries historians might have some good facts/information/news to publish and write about regarding that area of the world. A boy can hope and dream!!
Political leaders and military forces from all around what is called the western world and other more evolved countries/areas have been trying to intervene diplomatically and otherwise with force to try and figure out how to create some semblance of peace, civility and to provide and establish basic daily living conditions (daily needs: housing, food, plumbing, medical care, etc.) for the populations of people in the region for well over a few hundred years without success.
Without looking up a historical reference, if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the violence, strife, hatred, killing, far from humanitarian behavior activities, sectarian violence due to biases and other prejudiced fueled and other uncivilized behaviors have been going on in the region for thousands of years.
Nobody has been able to fix it no matter which approaches they have attempted. It's up to the people and leaders of those areas to work it out.
I've got a few simple ideas about how to pave the way to make those areas less violent and the inhabitants being able to live decent lives daily.
#1: Affordable housing with air conditioning
If I had to live in and walk around in sometimes up to 130°F temperatures in the desert just to find something to eat each day while the leaders are building lavish palaces and having fun shooting people and blowing things up I'd be pretty pissed off too.
#2: [Related to #1] Leaders, use some of that $$ you get from selling the oil you keep pumping out of the earth below you to fund idea #1. If you do that you won't miss a dime and will still have plenty of $$ for everything you desire.
#3: Better infrastructure, use some of the oil $$ revenue to improve that stuff, you've got plenty of land to develop things on. Dubai, Saudi Arabia and a few other places are doing a good job of that on small plots of land in the area.
. Build more schools, colleges, etc. and educate the populations with stuff beyond stupid regime designed propaganda. Better educated people tend to behave more civilly, rationally and less violently.
#5: Westernized countries, stop selling weapons, artillery, ammunition and military warfare gear to unstable countries in the region.
#6: Just chill, be cool, and stop loving the AKs, RPGs and other weapons so much. Keep them out of the hands of the young uneducated, possibly brainwashed kids.
My main view about what to do about the situations now from a USA/Western Country perspective is containment. Make sure no crazies with bombs or whatever weapons to kill get out of the countries/get over here or into other countries to use or detonate them, don't sell them/let them have any more weaponry, and then just let them work it out among themselves for now.
My short form principle: More education, less weapons/artillery for killing and violence. Educated people tend to behave and interact with others in much more civilized, less violent ways.
Maybe NATO or whoever else should drop-ship a bunch of books/instruction manuals along with some MREs into the bad regions.
PS: Blue, RE: your post on the previous page where you criticized me. You are the one that is confused, not me. I'm happy that you at least cut down the pirate talk for now. Maybe where you live people use aye instead of I, it sounds like local Caribbean Islands slang, but it is bad English to use on an American law school discussion forum, especially when you are talking about and wanting to have discussion about USA politics/policies/actions/elections/etc.