Duke Law? 3.67 MS GPA, 163 LSAT - experienced engineer

[ipdaily]

Hi, I am an experienced R&D engineer with a dozen or so patents and a decent understanding of patent theory coupled with a serious interest in IP law.   I am wondering if I have a chance to get into a top IP law school such as Duke.

Unfortunately, I blew the LSAT - 163, but I do have an MS from Stanford with a 3.67 GPA and UMich undergrad with 3.7.  And no, I won't be taking the friggin LSAT again.  I'd appreciate any advice.

[the white rabbit]

Sorry to say, but Duke and other Duke-range schools are pretty unlikely given your LSAT score.  The MS probably won't count for much, and the GPA's not so spectacular that it will outweigh the relatively low LSAT score.

[like_lasagna]

UGPA is the only GPA that matters, really. Retake the LSAT, bump your score to the upper 160s/lower 170s and you're probably in.

[MikePing]

With your LSAT, its a long shot.  About 8% of the applicants with your stats were accepted. 

[ipdaily]

UGPA is the only GPA that matters, really. Retake the LSAT, bump your score to the upper 160s/lower 170s and you're probably in.

How do you know they tend to ignore GGPA?  I can't imagine why they would do that.

[ipdaily]

With your LSAT, its a long shot.  About 8% of the applicants with your stats were accepted.

Thanks, actually, 8% isn't as bad as I thought given some of the graphs.  It seems like Duke tends to
ignore experience and stuff more than even some higher ranked schools - probably
not many elder learners there.

['blueskies]

UGPA is the only GPA that matters, really. Retake the LSAT, bump your score to the upper 160s/lower 170s and you're probably in.

How do you know they tend to ignore GGPA?  I can't imagine why they would do that.

UGPA and LSAT is what's reported to USNews, that's why GGPA doesn't matter

[nealric]

Thanks, actually, 8% isn't as bad as I thought given some of the graphs.  It seems like Duke tends to
 

I guarantee almost every single one of those 8% was an under-represented minority. If you are not an underrepresented minority, your chances are probably closer to 1%. But like people said, retake the LSAT. I advise anybody who scored less than a 170 their first time to retake. You have nothing to lose but the study time and the administration fee. Both pale in comparison to the investments of time and money you will put into law school.