I am hesitant to believe any school flunks out 25% of their students. It goes directly against the logic of them being a degree mill.
Cooley’s reputation in the academic community is hardly stellar: in the most recent USNWR rankings, the school received a peer-review score of 1.4, and a lawyers/judges-review score of 1.8 (both out of 5). The school also has one of the highest student-to-faculty ratios in the country, at 23.5. This last statistic contributes to the idea of Cooley as a “degree mill” – a school that denies its students the personal experience offered at many smaller schools. The curve at Cooley is very tough - so much so that 22.4% of 1Ls and 14.5% of 2Ls either choose to leave or flunk out. Even 3Ls are not safe, as 14 of them were forced to leave last year.
In regards to finding a job I have known people that found employment from Cooley I even worked for a guy that went there. He was pretty doing well for himself.
It is pretty much impossible to be a lawyer unless you attend law school.
The name of your school generally will not help you at all considering 75% of ABA schools are not tier 1.
However, if you know what you are getting into and bust your ass it is POSSIBLE to have a successful career as a lawyer from Cooley.
The article says 22% either flunked out or choose to leave. Not that there is a mandatory kick out rate.
nearly a quarter of all 1Ls leave or flunk out every year.
You are absolutely right Harvard & Michigan have GREAT name recognition. If you are in the top 25% of schools I think it does have a huge bearing. My point was that outside of the top 50 schools whether you went to Hamline, which might be tier 3 will not make you stand out over Suffolk tier 4. For 75% of schools the name does not mean anything outside of the top 50 or so schools most people have never heard of them. I was not trying to say that Harvard or any T14 school will not open doors for you.
In regards to your oversaturization argument show me an industry that is not over saturated. The population has grown exponentially since your father went to law school. I have posted on other threads MBA's, M.D.'s, nurses, teachers, etc posting how difficult the job market is.
Not to mention there is something called a GLOBAL recession. When something is referred to as global that means more than just the legal field.
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2001/08/19/fin_mba_no_longer_job.html MBA grads facing tough timeshttp://articlesmart.org/Art/99050/24/Doctors-difficulty-in-finding-rewarding-jobs.html
Jobs are competitive and every industry goes through ups and downs. I could post an article about how hard it is now or has been in the past for any profession out there. Hard as it is to believe, but people want to get paid to do something. No matter what job you have you can be replaced and markets are oversatured that is just life. As the national and world population continues to grow it will become even more competitive.
Again what school would want to get rid of paying students. It would make 0 sense. If someone appears incapable of passing the bar the school has a duty to fail them out. If someone chooses to leave the school that is there choice they are paying customers and nobody is forcing anyone to attend law schools. You are absolutely right Harvard & Michigan have GREAT name recognition. If you are in the top 25% of schools I think it does have a huge bearing. My point was that outside of the top 50 schools whether you went to Hamline, which might be tier 3 will not make you stand out over Suffolk tier 4. For 75% of schools the name does not mean anything outside of the top 50 or so schools most people have never heard of them. I was not trying to say that Harvard or any T14 school will not open doors for you.
I tend to look at the positives not the negatives in terms of the legal marketplace. Look at it from this standpoint: Society will probably become more and more litigious as the years go by. History has proven this to be true. Next, as the middle class people no longer enjoy jobs such as 25 dollar an hour janitors or non skilled laborers making 50k a year- these middle class and also lower income people will certainly want to become claimants against someone to pay the bills (goverment, former employer, insurance company). Lawyers will certainly have to be involved in either of these situations.
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