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marcus-aurelius

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2010, 12:49:07 PM »
Bigs,

I think the elusive 10 hour per week job making 100,000 per year is easily attainable.  Male escort service should do the trick :)

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2010, 01:01:24 PM »
 :) Possibly only problem is that will really interfere with my personal life don't know how my girlfriend would feel about. Plus my weekends will be booked and it is also hard to get clients that will pay me the big bucks since there might be a few people better looking and more charismatic than me out there. So the easy to get into factor is not satisfied. Plus I do not if I would enjoy being with the type of people that have to pay exorbitant amounts of money for a male escort and so I might not truly ENJOY the work.

I appreciate the suggestion though :) any other suggestions? Honestly, I would really like to have a job that paid me a lot, never interfered with my personal life, and I enjoyed every single second of the few hours I put in a week. It would be great to have it figured out by the end of the day. Me and a lot of my friends have been trying to figure this problem out for 25 years and still have not come up with a solution, but I know there are a lot smarter people than me out there.

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2010, 01:02:40 PM »
I constantly plead on this website for someone to tell me of some field that is easy to get into, pays me exorbitant amounts of money, guarantees me a sweet corner office, and would never interfere with my personal life. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF THERE IS A JOB THAT WILL PAY ME A 100K to WORK 10 HOURS A WEEK IS NOT COMPETITIVE TO GET INTO AND WILL NOT PUT ANY STRAIN ON ME PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Because I will drop out of law school ASAP. Until then I have chosen law school, because of the different things have done it is the most enjoyable to me.  It has worked out for me up to this point, but who knows how it will turn out.

I think you're (deliberately) missing the issue here.  No one claims that there is a field that is easy to get into, pays exorbitant amounts of money, guarantees a sweet corner office, or that would never interfere with your personal life.  What many are saying is that law school is simply not worth it after a certain point.  That exact point is extremely difficult to define (usually because people try to throw in intangibles).  However, when people come on here and talk about how they "love the law," "want to seek justice," or other similar B.S.; they have not stepped foot into a law office or talked to a recent graduate or a practicing attorney; and they are willing to incur significant debt... it kind of makes you wonder.

I wish that more people would come to this board and share their stats (Approximate school rank / Class Rank / Prior work experience) and employment (size of firm / salary / type of work) after their 3L year.  This would give all of these 0Ls a chance to see, first hand, a good sample of the type of opportunities that await them after graduation.  I'm not crossing my fingers, but the ABA has finally started looking into making the employment stats that law schools report more transparent.  There is no doubt in my mind that everyone (except law schools) would benefit from this information.  When, if ever, any of this information is released, I think people will be shocked to see the (real) average salary per school and how many law school graduates are not finding employment in the legal sector.  These are the types of risks that those on this board advocating against going to law school wish to expose to the 0Ls that don't have any information on the current state of the legal market.  Transparency becomes even more crucial when considering that many law school grads are throwing down $100-$200K on hopes, dreams, and misleading statistics.

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2010, 01:09:45 PM »
Not if Deuce Biggalo (sp?) is any indication...

Bigs,

I think the elusive 10 hour per week job making 100,000 per year is easily attainable.  Male escort service should do the trick :)

marcus-aurelius

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2010, 01:28:16 PM »
I never said male escort to women.  Watch the assumptions :)

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2010, 02:25:13 PM »
True Hamilton, but remember he stole the suave guys identity and used that reputation to get clients.

John, I agree that when people say I am seeking justice etc they have little idea what they are talking about. I have been through a year of law school and worked in law firms for two years and I still barely know what is going on. I really think law schools need to bump their admissions requirements up and do what nursing or medical school does and require you to take certain courses first off to show you planned on going to law school and didn't just graduate and say man I don't want to deal with work.

Then I also think you should be required to work in a law firm for a certain amount of hours before applying to law school. As it stands now you can be going to college on a basketball scholarship get a degree in Criminal Justice like some jackasses out there :)/religious studies/ etc and have no idea what you want to do with your life. However, if you are somewhat responsible in college show up to class get decent grades graduate and then it ends. You ponder what to do with your life and there is this MC test you can take that will basically take care of the next three years of your life and the true beauty is you do not even really need o study for the test, it is a logic puzzle. So if you get around 60% of the questions on this test correct, combined with your decent effort in college that resulted in above a 3.0, and have the ability to pump out a two page essay describing yourself well that is all you need to commit three years of your life and 100k. It is completely insufficient and you should required to do about 100 more things before you can be admitted to law school. However, as it stands law school admissions requirements are be moderately intelligent,  somewhat responsible in college, a decent MC test taker, and boom you are ready to be a lawyer. I think this is the path many take and then are shocked that the law is not quite as exciting as the movies make it out to be.

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2010, 03:13:14 PM »
Bigs - agree w/what you are saying, which to me is that the ABA needs to step up it's accredidation and make law schools more restrictive, not more inclusive.  At the current trend, law school is becoming an over-priced trade school that anyone can get into if they are willing to pay the price.  Law school should be like med school - selective and restrictive.  Unfortunately, the ABA is going in the other direction and accrediting more law schools.  Schools like Cooley who keep expanding and lowering admission standards bring the profession down and set stdents up for long-term financial failure.

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Re: Thinking about going to law school....
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2010, 04:24:53 PM »
I agree 100% it is nowhere near the way that Art School, which living in San Francisco is everywhere, but if some type of standard is not imposed it could eventually head that way. As it stands it is quite easy to get into any tier 1 to tier 4 law school. I know schools like Harvard & Yale require numerous essays and interviews etc, but to a lot of schools from the top 25 to Cooley you just need a LSAT score and respectable GPA and often times in a major that is a complete joke, which included my Criminal Justice and my insane amount of A's I got for playing  basketball I nailed theory of basketball, varsity conditioning, weightlifting, fundamentals of basketball, and principles of basketball.   I nailed them for 4 straight years amazing right! That does not display any type of desire to go to law school, but GGU was eager to hand me a scholarship because my bogus GPA might help them look better in the rankings. U.S. News is just an absolute joke and a big part of the numerous problems law schools have regarding admissions standards etc.

I think you should be required to work just 100 hours in any law office and have it documented it could be volunteer or paid. Then also have the ABA create a list of prerequisite classes a student needs to complete before applying. Not that this will necessarily teach the law student anything of substance, but it will at least show the person had a desire to attend a law school and was willing to make some sacrifices to get there. My friend got into nursing school, but she had to take a number of prerequisite classes to get admitted. I do not see why the ABA does not require prerequisite classes for the law as well.