Applying to Law School with an A Misdemeanor

[Freak]

which states would you say are the most likely to take it? As for ten years, most of that would be spent in training if he went for the full LLM.

I'm an attorney in Illinois and I can tell you that fraud will probably result in the bar turning you down in Illinois. If it's more than 10 years old, then you have a chance. If not, you'll have to beg and plead for the bar to even think about accepting you.

I don't know, but I can tell you that a friend was admitted in IL with a Class A traffic offense (not even a DUI), but they ran him through the ringer and it was over 10 years old.

[cooleylawstudent]

How did they "run him through the ringer"?

which states would you say are the most likely to take it? As for ten years, most of that would be spent in training if he went for the full LLM.

I'm an attorney in Illinois and I can tell you that fraud will probably result in the bar turning you down in Illinois. If it's more than 10 years old, then you have a chance. If not, you'll have to beg and plead for the bar to even think about accepting you.

I don't know, but I can tell you that a friend was admitted in IL with a Class A traffic offense (not even a DUI), but they ran him through the ringer and it was over 10 years old.

[john4040]

How did they "run him through the ringer"?

In my state, those with DUI, etc. had to go to multiple meetings with Bar officials prior to sitting for the bar.  This is probably what Freak is referring to.

[cooleylawstudent]

At least they do it prior to the bar. It'd be a bittch to ace the thing and then be told no.

How did they "run him through the ringer"?

In my state, those with DUI, etc. had to go to multiple meetings with Bar officials prior to sitting for the bar.  This is probably what Freak is referring to.

[john4040]

At least they do it prior to the bar. It'd be a bittch to ace the thing and then be told no.

Yeah.  I'm not sure any state allows a person to sit for the bar unless they have first passed Character and Fitness.  However, I've heard of some instances where people have dropped out at the end of 2L because they couldn't get past C&F... that would suck.   (

[nealric]

Yeah.  I'm not sure any state allows a person to sit for the bar unless they have first passed Character and Fitness. 

New York does C&F after the bar.

[Morten Lund]

As does California, and at least a few other states I know of.  There are basic eligibility criteria for taking the exam, but full-on character evaluation comes after the exam in many states.

[john4040]

Yeah.  I'm not sure any state allows a person to sit for the bar unless they have first passed Character and Fitness. 

New York does C&F after the bar.

Interesting.  I didn't know that.  I suppose it makes sense though:  No need to determine C&F until you've proven that you can at least pass the bar.

[john4040]

As does California, and at least a few other states I know of.  There are basic eligibility criteria for taking the exam, but full-on character evaluation comes after the exam in many states.

You sure about that?

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Requirements.aspx

"Moral character determination applications may be submitted during the first year of law study, and should be submitted no later than the beginning of the last year of law study."

Seems like if you're submitting your C&F application during 1L and 2L years, the Committee would be done by the time you take the bar?

[Morten Lund]

As does California, and at least a few other states I know of.  There are basic eligibility criteria for taking the exam, but full-on character evaluation comes after the exam in many states.

You sure about that?

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Requirements.aspx

"Moral character determination applications may be submitted during the first year of law study, and should be submitted no later than the beginning of the last year of law study."

Interesting.  I guess that's that I get for extrapolating.  I most definitely submitted my moral character information well after taking the California exam, but I was already admitted in another jurisdiction at the time.  It appears the procedure is different for new graduates.