Is this supposed to be an argument in support of the idea that it is the hard-working go-getters who are landing jobs in law and everyone not getting a job is a lazy slacker not willing to put in the effort? If so, it falls very flat.The above listed blogs can be dismissed as being written by bitter JDs who just did not have what it took, or who somehow felt entitled to a job - but folks do so at their own peril. I think these guys make an excellent point that anyone paying full price for a JD from a T3/T4 school and wracking up 6 figure debt is really taking a big risk. They are providing a forum to warn 0Ls that law school is not a guaranteed path to wealth and glamour - contrary to the product that the law schools continue to sell.Quote from: marcus-aurelius on September 27, 2010, 11:58:53 AMTo show that it matters how hard YOU are willing to work. I have two friends, went to the same school, had the same major, and GPA were closes (3.6 v. 3.5). One has a NYC job at larger company. Other is working for a local township. And then one with the lower GPA is the one in NYC
To show that it matters how hard YOU are willing to work. I have two friends, went to the same school, had the same major, and GPA were closes (3.6 v. 3.5). One has a NYC job at larger company. Other is working for a local township. And then one with the lower GPA is the one in NYC
Bigs,Quit. I'm startin' ta get that gospel feelin. AMENNNNNNNN. When will people realize that a loser is a loser, whether they be degreed or not? What is my definition of a loser? Exactly what Bigs said. Quit yer bitchin and finger pointing and get OUT there. Nothing wrong with you volunteering to do some Pro Bono work for the community, since you're ostensibly UNEMPLOYED anyway. Who knows? You may even meet someone that could help you in your career.OH...SORRY. I realize that'll cut into your internet time bitchin about what a raw deal you got.
"but I was scared, so I work at a hotdog stand......" is less impressive with the ladies than "Yeah I got stuck as general manager at Kmart for awhile, but I have a JD".........who's sausage would you rather swallow? There you go.
For the record I am not saying people don't have time to blog obviously I am in school right now, writing this post. However, it would be quite strange of me to complain if I received bad grades and complained about unfair my school was when I have posted 1500 times or something like that on this board. The amount of time I spend writing on this board could be put to better use. Thankfully my grades are good, but it would be strange if I complained about how fair everything was when I could spend time working studying to improve my grades. Therefore, I think it is quite strange when someone claiming to be hard at work looking for a job and saying how unfair the market is has time to rant about how unfair it is when their time could be devoted to finding a job. It seems the people most negative about law school etc are the ones that take no accountability for their decisions. Education is and always has been a risk and law school is no different. I honestly think a lot of people come into law school straight from undergrad thinking law school will open all kinds of doors, but nothing will come easy. I graduated from college expecting every job to come easy to me, but there are plenty of people with B.A's in this world. I found a job, but it took time and I was not paid nearly as well as I would have liked. I am expecting the same thing when I graduate from law school. Then I agree with everything else you said do your research before going to law school. However, don't just look at the ABA and U.S. News they do a mediocre job of telling you what you are in for. Bar Passage is important to look at, but knowing how many volumes a law school's library has is more or less irrelevant. Call Local Lawyers as you suggested and you can also find alumni pretty easily. Alumni are the people you want to listen to because they have first hand knowledge about the school and no motive to sugarcoat anything. If they loved their experience at their school they will you about it, if they feel like there school did a terrible job and ripped them off they will let you know. You can look at law firm websites and search for lawyers by school to get contact info. The Nevada Bar website also lets you search for attorney by school and I am unaware of any other state bar website that does this, but again this is a good starting point to get first hand knowledge from people that actually attended a school. One thing that happens on this board and the internet in general is people that have not even taken the LSAT yet alone sat in one law school class. Go on rants about schools and law school itself. I being a second year law student am not much better, because I barely know anything about the legal field. I have been through 1 3/4 years of law school and a few internships, which have left me feeling like I still have a lot to learn. Remember when looking at data etc that a law school has a motive to sugarcoat their info, because they want you to come to their school and pay them. A perfect example of this is how schools keep employment statistics. When you pay 100K plus to get a law degree, you expect a decent paying job. However, their employed statistics count unpaid internships as employed. Working as a fry cook at McDonald's employed. A good site to find real salary information is lawschooltransparency.com . This gives actual salary information, which is hard to come by from any school.