Horrible advice. (unless you already have a science degree which most JD students dont) More debt and many who can ace a JD couldnt get a D in engineering. PLUSThere is tons less work in that field. Thats like saying there isnt enough work out there so go back to undergrad and cut out 90% of what you can do. In fact that is exactly what you are saying. Quote from: cvtheis on June 14, 2010, 09:43:03 AMConsider, to do patent law or IP you may not need a JD. To take the patent Bar you simply need an appropriate "engineering" degree -- check their web site.IMO, If not going to a T1, you are wasting your time (I'm a T4 graduate) - will need some serious stick to get there w/ a 2.0 GPA.
Consider, to do patent law or IP you may not need a JD. To take the patent Bar you simply need an appropriate "engineering" degree -- check their web site.IMO, If not going to a T1, you are wasting your time (I'm a T4 graduate) - will need some serious stick to get there w/ a 2.0 GPA.
the patent bar is an ok way to go, but FAR LESS jobs in that and MUCH more competition. How is that easier to get a job in than a lawyer?
I do not agree with the premise of "far less jobs" there. Its been my understanding that IP is one of the growing areas of law.Quote from: Numitor on June 14, 2010, 11:00:51 PMthe patent bar is an ok way to go, but FAR LESS jobs in that and MUCH more competition. How is that easier to get a job in than a lawyer?
I was admitted to a T4 school last year, and I am currently in the top 20% of my class. Depending on your goals, I would say you are definitely not wasting your time. I am relying on my job experience to make me more marketable as an attorney. There's no reason why you can't do the same. QuoteOh, you are in the top 20% of a Fourth Tier school? That really impresses employers these days! <sarcasm> What sort of unique job experience do you have that will make you more marketable as an attorney in these days when many T1 grads are working at Wal-Mart? You don't have some family connections that will get you a job, do you? I hope to God you are not borrowing a lot of money to finance your dreams. Sorry to be so harsh, but the legal job market is brutal, and having a positive attitude is not much help. Unless you get into a T14 school, rank at the very top of a lower ranked school (like first in your class, not top 20%), have family connections that guarantee you a job or are not borrowing any money to go to school, going to law school is pure idiocy. You'll realize this in about 4 years.Don't be such a d-bag. Since I last posted I received my grades and my standing improved to the top 8%, and yes, unlike you apparently, I do have job skills that will make me more marketable in the legal market for the particular type of field I wish to pursue. My connections have nothing to do with my family, but rest assured my professional ones are very promising. The last time I checked, this segment of the board was dedicated to non-traditional students, not the masses of wet-behind-the-ears T1 grads whose entire existence is fueled by their unreasonable expectation of--immediately upon graduation--acquiring so-called "biglaw" jobs, even though such jobs are on the decline and many of those seeking them have no actual career experience. You made a lot of unwarranted assumptions in your criticism of my situation, which I shared with the OP to encourage someone else who, probably unlike you, also appears to have some unique experience that will undoubtedly enhance his or her employability in the legal market. You see, I am not going into debt to finance law school so I have the luxury of waiting for the legal market to turn around while I gain legal experience in my current six-figure salary job. In other words, I already have a high-paying job that includes a generous, lifetime pension (perhaps also like the OP) and the corresponding luxury of time, which affords me some degree of selectivity in carrying out my endeavor to enter the legal profession. Just because you may have amassed an assload of debt and aren't confident about your limited prospects and inability to obtain employment more prestigious than Wal-Mart greeter does not mean everyone else's debt load and job prospects are as grim and dismal as yours.
Oh, you are in the top 20% of a Fourth Tier school? That really impresses employers these days! <sarcasm> What sort of unique job experience do you have that will make you more marketable as an attorney in these days when many T1 grads are working at Wal-Mart? You don't have some family connections that will get you a job, do you? I hope to God you are not borrowing a lot of money to finance your dreams. Sorry to be so harsh, but the legal job market is brutal, and having a positive attitude is not much help. Unless you get into a T14 school, rank at the very top of a lower ranked school (like first in your class, not top 20%), have family connections that guarantee you a job or are not borrowing any money to go to school, going to law school is pure idiocy. You'll realize this in about 4 years.
Awesome. Yea if the OP has a 2.0 and a 160 they can probably get into law school and crazy facts are that if you go to law school you learn to become a lawyer. Plenty of tier 3/4 students find jobs in fact well over 50% of students at any ABA school find employment. Law school is what you make of it and jackasses like mdf1960 probably have never even set foot in a law school classroom, yet criticize something they know jack sh** about.
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