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Re: Psychiatric Disability Right in Law School
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 02:44:17 PM »
You all want to know, I'll tell you.  I have ADD and Bipolar II. I was diagnosed with ADD at 12 and Bipolar II at 19.  I know what you all are thinking.  Youíre thinking Iím stupid, unintelligent, insane, and incapable of leading a full life.  Guess again! I am smart and intelligent, and perfectly sane. I am a straight A student, who is a Phi Theta Kappa member.  I do the same work and take the same tests, as everyone else in my class.    I go to college full time.  Live on my own, and I am planning on getting an academic scholarship to a school I want to transfer to.  I plan to go into public interest law, doing civil rights and litigation work.  One of my areas will be disability rights, and I will make sure that one no disabled person has their rights denied, especially people with psychiatric disabilities. Nothing and no one will keep me from being an attorney.  If anyone tries to deny me my civil rights, I will sue the pants off of them. 

On a personal note, I can tell you that there is nothing worse than being sick, alone and scared and having people ridicule and stigmatize you for it.  No one deserves that type of treatment. 

I find it really sad that people in this day and age continue to stigmatize people with psychiatric disabilities and deny them their civil rights.  They think we're lazy, weak, insane, stupid, violent, etc.  However, people with psychiatric disabilities are just as capable and competent as anyone else.  They have an illness, just like any other.  Like asthma or diabetes.  To treat people with psychiatric disabilities this way, is the same as discriminating against someone because of their race, gender, and sexual orientation.  You wouldn't make fun of someone with cancer, you wouldn't deny someone with cancer disability accommodations if need be.  Then why do the same to someone with a psychiatric disability. 

I also find it really sad that people in this day and age, can't see people with psychiatric disabilities for the gifts and abilities they have. Abraham Lincoln suffered from depression.  He was a lawyer and the president of the United States.  If Lincoln were alive today, and he was a student and had depression, who you deny him his civil rights and a chance to succeed in school? If someone did, they would have never have known one of the greatest presidents who ever lived.

The rehabilitation act of 1973, section 504, grants student with psychiatric disabilities the right to their civil rights and academic accommodations.  However, higher education institutions continually ignore the laws regarding student with psychiatric disabilities and itís a disgrace.  Not to mention that suicide is the second leading cause of death among college students, and the age for most mental illnesses are in ones late teens and twenties.   Even with this information, higher education institutions still do nothing to address the problem.  Still colleges continue to do nothing about it.  Student insurance doesnít even cover mental health parity, and there is a lack of awareness on campus.  This is all a result of ignorance and bigotry. 

Itís time for people to get a clue about mental illnesses and stop the bigotry. >:(


First of all, you really need to work on your writing skills if you plan to be accepted, let along suceed in law school and become licensed because judging on your two samples show above, you are sorely lacking. "grants student with psychiatric disabilities the right to their civil rights". Really? What does that even mean?

Second, what in the world are "psychiatric disabilities"? There are such things as learning disabilites, problems that specifically affect how an individual learns, absorbs information, and their ability to regurgitate that information, but what you described above is an emotional disorder, something that as of yet has not been proven to hinder the learning process. Certain disorders may affect how one copes with stresses, responds to stimuli, and behaves, but it does not affect the brain in such a way as to limit or impede learning.

Finally, lose the chip. Nearly everyone who applies to law school has their own little sob story. Just do a quick search of this site and you will find out that many, many people had to deal with hardships and such. So, join the club, we have jackets.

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Re: Psychiatric Disability Right in Law School
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 09:47:09 PM »
Some porch talk needed...

You definitely are thinking into what other's may be thinking a bit too much.  That is okay for someone with bipolar.  It is caused by anxiety and you are clearly anxious.  It may also be caused by an inability to understand other people's reality (aka TOM or Theory of Mind).  Also common for bipolar.

For the rest of you, accommodations would be needed by the bipolar disorder sufferer because along with the highs and lows come attached a bunch of cognitive deficits in memory, attention, organization, impulsiveness, and the like.  Stress can really activate any one or a combination of the symptoms of bipolar and can aggravate these impairments.

The poster is right however, in that bipolars tend to be more intelligent on average and very creative.  My concern, however, would be that when you become a practicing attorney, you are a fiduciary and it is my view that being bipolar breaches that fiduciary duty.  Just like if you were managing someone's money as an investment advisor(also a fiduciary), bipolar would be wholly incompatible due to the episodic nature of when certain manifestations(mania, depression, or cognitive difficulties) appear.If you are in mid-trial or someone is really relying on you, then you could really screw them up to to impaired judgement and cognition.

Being a corporate lawyer would likely be better.

Dont think these impairments do not exist.  Check out my site to learn more on bipolar.  It is the Drudge of Bipolar Disorder! 

By the way, I have Bipolar I. Probably ADD as well.
Andrew
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Thank you for your comments.  I really appreciate it.  Actually I have a form of bipolar known as Bipolar II, which is a more milder form.  I know how to manage it.

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Re: Psychiatric Disability Right in Law School
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2009, 09:51:54 PM »
You all want to know, I'll tell you.  I have ADD and Bipolar II. I was diagnosed with ADD at 12 and Bipolar II at 19.  I know what you all are thinking.  Youíre thinking Iím stupid, unintelligent, insane, and incapable of leading a full life.  Guess again! I am smart and intelligent, and perfectly sane. I am a straight A student, who is a Phi Theta Kappa member.  I do the same work and take the same tests, as everyone else in my class.    I go to college full time.  Live on my own, and I am planning on getting an academic scholarship to a school I want to transfer to.  I plan to go into public interest law, doing civil rights and litigation work.  One of my areas will be disability rights, and I will make sure that one no disabled person has their rights denied, especially people with psychiatric disabilities. Nothing and no one will keep me from being an attorney.  If anyone tries to deny me my civil rights, I will sue the pants off of them. 

On a personal note, I can tell you that there is nothing worse than being sick, alone and scared and having people ridicule and stigmatize you for it.  No one deserves that type of treatment. 

I find it really sad that people in this day and age continue to stigmatize people with psychiatric disabilities and deny them their civil rights.  They think we're lazy, weak, insane, stupid, violent, etc.  However, people with psychiatric disabilities are just as capable and competent as anyone else.  They have an illness, just like any other.  Like asthma or diabetes.  To treat people with psychiatric disabilities this way, is the same as discriminating against someone because of their race, gender, and sexual orientation.  You wouldn't make fun of someone with cancer, you wouldn't deny someone with cancer disability accommodations if need be.  Then why do the same to someone with a psychiatric disability. 

I also find it really sad that people in this day and age, can't see people with psychiatric disabilities for the gifts and abilities they have. Abraham Lincoln suffered from depression.  He was a lawyer and the president of the United States.  If Lincoln were alive today, and he was a student and had depression, who you deny him his civil rights and a chance to succeed in school? If someone did, they would have never have known one of the greatest presidents who ever lived.

The rehabilitation act of 1973, section 504, grants student with psychiatric disabilities the right to their civil rights and academic accommodations.  However, higher education institutions continually ignore the laws regarding student with psychiatric disabilities and itís a disgrace.  Not to mention that suicide is the second leading cause of death among college students, and the age for most mental illnesses are in ones late teens and twenties.   Even with this information, higher education institutions still do nothing to address the problem.  Still colleges continue to do nothing about it.  Student insurance doesnít even cover mental health parity, and there is a lack of awareness on campus.  This is all a result of ignorance and bigotry. 

Itís time for people to get a clue about mental illnesses and stop the bigotry. >:(


First of all, you really need to work on your writing skills if you plan to be accepted, let along suceed in law school and become licensed because judging on your two samples show above, you are sorely lacking. "grants student with psychiatric disabilities the right to their civil rights". Really? What does that even mean?

Second, what in the world are "psychiatric disabilities"? There are such things as learning disabilites, problems that specifically affect how an individual learns, absorbs information, and their ability to regurgitate that information, but what you described above is an emotional disorder, something that as of yet has not been proven to hinder the learning process. Certain disorders may affect how one copes with stresses, responds to stimuli, and behaves, but it does not affect the brain in such a way as to limit or impede learning.

Finally, lose the chip. Nearly everyone who applies to law school has their own little sob story. Just do a quick search of this site and you will find out that many, many people had to deal with hardships and such. So, join the club, we have jackets.

For your information, I don't have a chip.  I am just sick and tired of dealing with people's bigotry.  If this was about african-american civil rights, instead of psychiatric disability rights, you would not be saying that.

Also, I had a friend of mine whose a law student read over my statement and he said it was very good and lawyer like. 

Also I'm not planning on coming across angry in my personal statement.  I am upset with that some of the bigoted statements in this post.