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Re: bad 1L grades-drop out and retake lsat to go to better school?
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2009, 02:06:57 PM »
What [low-ranked] private schools place in 20 plus states?  That's just wrong.  Regional schools are just that, regional.  Which is all well and good, but law school is expensive.  To each their own, but it's a fact that a lot of students going to lower ranked schools regret their decision down the road.

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Cooley - 42.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1796.pdf
Ave Maria - 24.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1801.pdf
Catholic - 20.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA5104.pdf
Drake - 23.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA6168.pdf

Are you kidding?  Cooley is a joke, as is Ave Maria and Drake.  Catholic also struggles for legal placement, even within it's regional area because it's the number 5 school in an already saturated market.

Just because a student succeeds every now and then doesn't mean you should go there.  Statistics will catch up to you.  You aren't that shining star....

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Re: bad 1L grades-drop out and retake lsat to go to better school?
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2009, 02:37:39 PM »
What [low-ranked] private schools place in 20 plus states?  That's just wrong.  Regional schools are just that, regional.  Which is all well and good, but law school is expensive.  To each their own, but it's a fact that a lot of students going to lower ranked schools regret their decision down the road.

E.g.

Cooley - 42.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1796.pdf
Ave Maria - 24.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1801.pdf
Catholic - 20.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA5104.pdf
Drake - 23.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA6168.pdf

Are you kidding?  Cooley is a joke, as is Ave Maria and Drake.  Catholic also struggles for legal placement, even within it's regional area because it's the number 5 school in an already saturated market.

Just because a student succeeds every now and then doesn't mean you should go there.  Statistics will catch up to you.  You aren't that shining star....

Your question had nothing to do with succeeding or being a shining star.  You asked for a list of "crap private schools [that] place in 20 plus states."  I listed four low-ranked school that placed in 20+ states according to data reported to ABA.

Maybe you and Ninja are just arguing past each other about "national presence."  One definition of national presence = a top law school.  Another definition of national presence = graduates work in many different states.

Schools that are high ranked and have national presence probably have national presence because students from all over the country want to attend.  Many of those students return to their home state after attending the top school and are able to find great jobs with large law firms.

But plenty of other schools also have "national presence" in the sense that students from across the country decide to attend, either because they received a scholarship, couldn't get in to the better schools in their home state, or for some other reason.  Those students are also likely to return to their home states--but of course, the key difference is that these students are not making high $$$.

Key:
Where students work geographically has more to do with students' preferences rather than reputation of school.
What type of jobs students can get has more to do with school reputation rather than student preferences.

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Re: bad 1L grades-drop out and retake lsat to go to better school?
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2009, 10:42:39 AM »
"Place in 20 states" is being used too literally.  Cooley students can't just go get a job in 20 states.  The reality is they can barely get a job at all.

If you want to be naive, go ahead.  You probably go to one of the TTT's listed and are therefore defending it.

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Re: bad 1L grades-drop out and retake lsat to go to better school?
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2009, 02:41:44 PM »
What [low-ranked] private schools place in 20 plus states?  That's just wrong.  Regional schools are just that, regional.  Which is all well and good, but law school is expensive.  To each their own, but it's a fact that a lot of students going to lower ranked schools regret their decision down the road.

E.g.

Cooley - 42.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1796.pdf
Ave Maria - 24.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA1801.pdf
Catholic - 20.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA5104.pdf
Drake - 23.  http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA6168.pdf

Are you kidding?  Cooley is a joke, as is Ave Maria and Drake.  Catholic also struggles for legal placement, even within it's regional area because it's the number 5 school in an already saturated market.

Just because a student succeeds every now and then doesn't mean you should go there.  Statistics will catch up to you.  You aren't that shining star....

Your question had nothing to do with succeeding or being a shining star.  You asked for a list of "crap private schools [that] place in 20 plus states."  I listed four low-ranked school that placed in 20+ states according to data reported to ABA.

Maybe you and Ninja are just arguing past each other about "national presence."  One definition of national presence = a top law school.  Another definition of national presence = graduates work in many different states.

Schools that are high ranked and have national presence probably have national presence because students from all over the country want to attend.  Many of those students return to their home state after attending the top school and are able to find great jobs with large law firms.

But plenty of other schools also have "national presence" in the sense that students from across the country decide to attend, either because they received a scholarship, couldn't get in to the better schools in their home state, or for some other reason.  Those students are also likely to return to their home states--but of course, the key difference is that these students are not making high $$$.

Key:
Where students work geographically has more to do with students' preferences rather than reputation of school.
What type of jobs students can get has more to do with school reputation rather than student preferences.

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