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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2009, 09:33:56 AM »
House Blue Dog leader hails Baucus health bill


By Michael O'Brien - 09/16/09 12:56 PM ET


The Senate Finance Committee's healthcare bill won praise from a key centrist Democrat in the House, hailing it as an "important step forward" in the effort to achieve health reform.

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), the co-chairwoman of the centrist blog of Blue Dog Democrats, gave the healthcare legislation released by Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) a warm reception in a statement this morning.

"Today, the Senate took an important step forward as Congress moves to send responsible health care reform legislation to the Presidentís desk," Herseth Sandlin said. "I applaud Chairman Baucus and his colleagues in the Senate for their progress today and look forward to working together as we move to make health care reform a reality."

The Blue Dog leader's praise for the more centrist Finance committee bill puts House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in a tough spot, as Pelosi struggles to manage House centrists' concerns, as well as House liberals' refusal to vote for a health bill which lacks a public (or "government-run") option, as the Finance bill does.

Herseth Sandlin argued that the new Senate bill met Blue Dogs' key concerns about healthcare reform.

"The draft released by Chairman Baucus addresses two central goals of the Blue Dog Coalition and the Administration: It is deficit neutral, and it takes real steps to bring down the cost of health care over the long term," she said. "Meeting these standards, also set forth by the President, is critical to reining in deficits and protecting our economy for future generations of Americans."



baucus bill going nowhere without many improvements.

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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2009, 10:02:56 PM »
House Blue Dog leader hails Baucus health bill


By Michael O'Brien - 09/16/09 12:56 PM ET


The Senate Finance Committee's healthcare bill won praise from a key centrist Democrat in the House, hailing it as an "important step forward" in the effort to achieve health reform.

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), the co-chairwoman of the centrist blog of Blue Dog Democrats, gave the healthcare legislation released by Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) a warm reception in a statement this morning.

"Today, the Senate took an important step forward as Congress moves to send responsible health care reform legislation to the Presidentís desk," Herseth Sandlin said. "I applaud Chairman Baucus and his colleagues in the Senate for their progress today and look forward to working together as we move to make health care reform a reality."

The Blue Dog leader's praise for the more centrist Finance committee bill puts House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in a tough spot, as Pelosi struggles to manage House centrists' concerns, as well as House liberals' refusal to vote for a health bill which lacks a public (or "government-run") option, as the Finance bill does.

Herseth Sandlin argued that the new Senate bill met Blue Dogs' key concerns about healthcare reform.

"The draft released by Chairman Baucus addresses two central goals of the Blue Dog Coalition and the Administration: It is deficit neutral, and it takes real steps to bring down the cost of health care over the long term," she said. "Meeting these standards, also set forth by the President, is critical to reining in deficits and protecting our economy for future generations of Americans."



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no shite, sherlock... good thing is that the starting measure is not going to have the "public option"...funding for abortions must be put under the laser beam...public options are not going to make it out of committee...
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Re: Health Care
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2009, 08:48:59 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2009, 08:27:17 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 10:59:00 PM »
eat this one, too, dirtbag:  http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/markos-moulitas/59859-blue-dogs-beware
:D :D :D :D :D :D


...what desperate person wrote that article? nobody a little scared and reaaallllyyyy stretching? hmm? suspicious...

republican lite was elected for a reason...and national security is a part of it...you don't remember when aye told you that republican lite had arrived...and who is to say that bluedogs aren't coming back...re-election...sure...

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« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2009, 11:05:57 PM »
...this is a kind of funny...

Democrats assemble the circular firing-squad on the Public Option

Bill Dupray

This is kind of funny. The Senate Finance Committee is going to vote this week on an amendment that would add a public option to their health care bill. If you are a Democrat, it sounds good so far, right? But the authors of the amendment, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), have stated that they know the amendment will not pass in the committee. So why are they forcing an amendment that will only serve to embarrass their fellow Democrats? Well, to embarrass their fellow Democrats, of course.

The spotlight this week will continue on the Senate Finance Committee, where amendments to add the public insurance option will be offered by Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.) and Chuck Schumer (N.Y.). . . .

The Finance committee votes, which could come as early as this week, promise to be discomfiting for both liberals and Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the embattled chairman of the Finance panel who is likely to vote against them. . . .

Rockefeller, Schumer and likeminded liberal senators begrudgingly acknowledge the votes are not there in the committee for the public option.

But they intend to force their colleagues to take a stand on the issue and possibly face the wrath of powerful interests such as labor unions and grassroots liberal activists.

So the Democrats are throwing their own guys overboard like chum to the union sharks. Sounds good to me. This is a Republican dream-plan being executed by Liberals.

And the Democratsí problems are just beginning in the Senate Finance Committee. The Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee will have a strong public option in its bill and Harry Reid will have to decide what goes to the floor for a final vote. Will it be the public option, co-ops, or something else? The centrist Dems will jump ship on the public option and the liberals will accept nothing short of one.

Then there is the problem in the House.

In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) isnít having any easier a time despite having a large majority dominated by liberals. The centrist voting bloc, led by the Blue Dog coalition, is holding its ground against the public option. . . .

Itís not clear whether Pelosi will have the votes to win a healthcare vote on the floor if the public option is not included in the bill. But itís also not clear sheíll win a vote with the public option, since Republicans are expected to vote en masse against the bill.

I would simply advise that if the Democrats are going to go with the circular firing squad, they should be sure to take careful aim.
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Re: Health Care
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2009, 09:19:27 AM »
eat this one, too, dirtbag: http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/markos-moulitas/59859-blue-dogs-beware
:D :D :D :D :D :D


...what desperate person wrote that article? nobody a little scared and reaaallllyyyy stretching? hmm? suspicious...

republican lite was elected for a reason...and national security is a part of it...you don't remember when aye told you that republican lite had arrived...and who is to say that bluedogs aren't coming back...re-election...sure...

it is called conservative power...

this known as bluedenial.

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« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2009, 09:20:56 AM »
...this is a kind of funny...

Democrats assemble the circular firing-squad on the Public Option

Bill Dupray

This is kind of funny. The Senate Finance Committee is going to vote this week on an amendment that would add a public option to their health care bill. If you are a Democrat, it sounds good so far, right? But the authors of the amendment, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), have stated that they know the amendment will not pass in the committee. So why are they forcing an amendment that will only serve to embarrass their fellow Democrats? Well, to embarrass their fellow Democrats, of course.

The spotlight this week will continue on the Senate Finance Committee, where amendments to add the public insurance option will be offered by Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.) and Chuck Schumer (N.Y.). . . .

The Finance committee votes, which could come as early as this week, promise to be discomfiting for both liberals and Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the embattled chairman of the Finance panel who is likely to vote against them. . . .

Rockefeller, Schumer and likeminded liberal senators begrudgingly acknowledge the votes are not there in the committee for the public option.

But they intend to force their colleagues to take a stand on the issue and possibly face the wrath of powerful interests such as labor unions and grassroots liberal activists.

So the Democrats are throwing their own guys overboard like chum to the union sharks. Sounds good to me. This is a Republican dream-plan being executed by Liberals.

And the Democratsí problems are just beginning in the Senate Finance Committee. The Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee will have a strong public option in its bill and Harry Reid will have to decide what goes to the floor for a final vote. Will it be the public option, co-ops, or something else? The centrist Dems will jump ship on the public option and the liberals will accept nothing short of one.

Then there is the problem in the House.

In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) isnít having any easier a time despite having a large majority dominated by liberals. The centrist voting bloc, led by the Blue Dog coalition, is holding its ground against the public option. . . .

Itís not clear whether Pelosi will have the votes to win a healthcare vote on the floor if the public option is not included in the bill. But itís also not clear sheíll win a vote with the public option, since Republicans are expected to vote en masse against the bill.

I would simply advise that if the Democrats are going to go with the circular firing squad, they should be sure to take careful aim.


it not just about retaining power, numbnuts.  it about actually doing something important--which public clearly want, by way.

after all, you get health care from mechanic.

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« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2009, 01:00:30 AM »
...this is a kind of funny...

Democrats assemble the circular firing-squad on the Public Option

Bill Dupray

This is kind of funny. The Senate Finance Committee is going to vote this week on an amendment that would add a public option to their health care bill. If you are a Democrat, it sounds good so far, right? But the authors of the amendment, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), have stated that they know the amendment will not pass in the committee. So why are they forcing an amendment that will only serve to embarrass their fellow Democrats? Well, to embarrass their fellow Democrats, of course.

The spotlight this week will continue on the Senate Finance Committee, where amendments to add the public insurance option will be offered by Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.) and Chuck Schumer (N.Y.). . . .

The Finance committee votes, which could come as early as this week, promise to be discomfiting for both liberals and Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the embattled chairman of the Finance panel who is likely to vote against them. . . .

Rockefeller, Schumer and likeminded liberal senators begrudgingly acknowledge the votes are not there in the committee for the public option.

But they intend to force their colleagues to take a stand on the issue and possibly face the wrath of powerful interests such as labor unions and grassroots liberal activists.

So the Democrats are throwing their own guys overboard like chum to the union sharks. Sounds good to me. This is a Republican dream-plan being executed by Liberals.

And the Democratsí problems are just beginning in the Senate Finance Committee. The Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee will have a strong public option in its bill and Harry Reid will have to decide what goes to the floor for a final vote. Will it be the public option, co-ops, or something else? The centrist Dems will jump ship on the public option and the liberals will accept nothing short of one.

Then there is the problem in the House.

In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) isnít having any easier a time despite having a large majority dominated by liberals. The centrist voting bloc, led by the Blue Dog coalition, is holding its ground against the public option. . . .

Itís not clear whether Pelosi will have the votes to win a healthcare vote on the floor if the public option is not included in the bill. But itís also not clear sheíll win a vote with the public option, since Republicans are expected to vote en masse against the bill.

I would simply advise that if the Democrats are going to go with the circular firing squad, they should be sure to take careful aim.


it not just about retaining power, numbnuts.  it about actually doing something important--which public clearly want, by way.

after all, you get health care from mechanic.


aye use the word power to get under your bigoted skin...and obviously...it works...

for we indigos...it is about national security...putting pressure on despots...dictators...and genocidal murderers...disrupting murdering regimes...continuing to pursue guerrillas fueled by fundamental theological delusion who murdered americans and are still on the run...and aye believe in doing something about those who plot to kill americans...also it is about making sure that we, the people do not pay for abortions and end up shelling out all our hard earned money to the federal government...u know...doing something about those things and actually having the balls to be pushy enough to get our way... conservative democrats are the new bluedogs...and don't think conservative values are going away anytime soon...

libs on the other hand..no moxie...stand on quicksand.


oh :D :D :D...public clearly want us go afghanistan...public clearly want us go iraq...

iraq is dictator free ;D...me like public ;)
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« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2009, 09:02:10 AM »
conservative values?  those found vitter's and ensign's pants.