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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 10:08:04 PM »
stop posting this crap...seriously.

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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 08:05:56 PM »
Sands, I totally respect your judgment about how to handle this, but I have a suggestion.  In the future, when shills/obsessives/spammers post multiple threads with the same content or lack thereof, especially in the wrong areas of the board, I think it would make sense to delete or combine the offending multiple threads and issue a warning instead of banning the user (who may be a legitimate user who is just confused about how the board is organized) and leaving the offending threads around to muck up the board.  But this is just my 2 cents.
That's cool how you referenced a case.

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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 08:57:52 PM »
I think just banning them is funnier. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 09:22:01 PM »
Sands, I totally respect your judgment about how to handle this, but I have a suggestion.  In the future, when shills/obsessives/spammers post multiple threads with the same content or lack thereof, especially in the wrong areas of the board, I think it would make sense to delete or combine the offending multiple threads and issue a warning instead of banning the user (who may be a legitimate user who is just confused about how the board is organized) and leaving the offending threads around to muck up the board.  But this is just my 2 cents.

Maybe in some cases. This person posted the same link 16 times...excessive much?

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 09:28:14 PM »
Sands, I totally respect your judgment about how to handle this, but I have a suggestion.  In the future, when shills/obsessives/spammers post multiple threads with the same content or lack thereof, especially in the wrong areas of the board, I think it would make sense to delete or combine the offending multiple threads and issue a warning instead of banning the user (who may be a legitimate user who is just confused about how the board is organized) and leaving the offending threads around to muck up the board.  But this is just my 2 cents.

Maybe in some cases. This person posted the same link 16 times...excessive much?

I agree, but banning is really extreme.  I don't think it's too much to ask that we give people the chance to shape up before we ban them.  Also, we should consider deleting or combining the 16 threads instead of just taking action against the poster.
That's cool how you referenced a case.

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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 09:30:50 PM »
Sands, I totally respect your judgment about how to handle this, but I have a suggestion.  In the future, when shills/obsessives/spammers post multiple threads with the same content or lack thereof, especially in the wrong areas of the board, I think it would make sense to delete or combine the offending multiple threads and issue a warning instead of banning the user (who may be a legitimate user who is just confused about how the board is organized) and leaving the offending threads around to muck up the board.  But this is just my 2 cents.

Maybe in some cases. This person posted the same link 16 times...excessive much?

I agree, but banning is really extreme.  I don't think it's too much to ask that we give people the chance to shape up before we ban them.  Also, we should consider deleting or combining the 16 threads instead of just taking action against the poster.

Yeah, but I could see from a mod's point of view that things like this just get annoying. You try to be reasonable, etc. and people abuse it. Easy way out: ban. Obviously being reasonable is a good thing too, but there are practical concerns as well. I do think you make a good point though.

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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 09:35:42 PM »
Yeah, but I could see from a mod's point of view that things like this just get annoying. You try to be reasonable, etc. and people abuse it. Easy way out: ban. Obviously being reasonable is a good thing too, but there are practical concerns as well. I do think you make a good point though.

I totally understand, and I totally respect Sands' judgment (and appreciate that he still devotes time here when he has serious real-world responsibilities).  I just hate the idea that people could be banned arbitrarily and I'd like to see some process put in place -- not like multiple levels of appeals, but maybe a one-warning system for all but the most egregious cases.  In any case, I still think the mods should delete those fifteen other friends, regardless of what happened to our unfortunate friend LovingThis.
That's cool how you referenced a case.

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Re: Interesting article...must read!
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 09:51:11 PM »
I totally understand, and I totally respect Sands' judgment (and appreciate that he still devotes time here when he has serious real-world responsibilities).  I just hate the idea that people could be banned arbitrarily and I'd like to see some process put in place -- not like multiple levels of appeals, but maybe a one-warning system for all but the most egregious cases.  In any case, I still think the mods should delete those fifteen other friends, regardless of what happened to our unfortunate friend LovingThis.

I think you've read too many due process clause cases.  If some dood was actually arbitrarily banned, the moron could always contact the administrator to remedy this grave injustice.