Alright, so you think I'm the cause of the mess...
I've made that clear a few posts ago, when I made the nasty divorce analogy, that you are a part of the cause, but not the entire cause, of this mess
That you even make this comment this late in the game betrays your partiality, my friend. It saddens me to have to see two often well-meaning people do this to one another on a daily basis.
Am I the only person who doesn't hold grudges, for the most part?
That's that, then. I realize that Miss P and others agree with you and would like to see my voice permanently silenced. That's cool - it's exactly what I'm talking about.
While I don't think you're stating this, I just want to be clear: I do NOT think you should be silenced.
At the same time, both of you blew this out of proportion. You keep harping on this too. If you wouldn't have reposting, we wouldn't be on this carousel yet again.
I disagree, but I don't see any point in discussing it further. If you think my sarcasm and the fact that I disagreed with Miss P is enough to merit the hate fest that follows, we don't see eye to eye. And, yes, I did know that you were a regular.
At the risk of you complaining about it yet again, you're pulling a strawman.
I never said disagreeing with Miss P is enough to merit a hate fest, coupled with sarcasm/etc. In fact, I just said a few posts ago that the ganging up is wrong, and it needs to stop.
Your first post was extremely condescending. Making claims that the "only" rational
argument against your position is [insert the argument you stated] is ridiculous. You can't expect that people aren't going to react to that in a nice light.
Does it make it right? No. But it's reasonable to expect that: a) when you start off the thread with a "bang," by being extremely condescending, and b)start arguing with someone who is well-known, the people who didn't like your tone to start with come out of the bushes. It's not they weren't annoyed with you earlier; it's simply that your argument gave them a convenient time to attack.
A lack of virtue brings about problems for a person, my friend. But that's for another discussion....
(And, no, I'm not saying you're a bad person by any stretch. If you can't tell, I'm a very philosophical person.)
If Miss P knew that posters were banned because of her complaints and then complained about a poster, I think it's safe to say she wanted the poster banned. Arguing otherwise is a bit like contending that someone who sticks a gun to another's head and pulls the trigger didn't necessarily want to shoot that person... that they were just really into pulling triggers. Who knew that indulging one's self in the normally benign hobby of trigger pulling would have such dire consequences in this case?
There are a few issues here:
1) Is there direct evidence that she: a) knew that posters were banned; b) solely because of her complaints
(this is crucial; if not, your argument is extremely weakened)? What is the clear evidence? If it's clear, show it. No more inferences. Make it clear. And don't say "it's in the thread." You've opened the door by re-posting in this thread. If you want to close the door, you need to shut the door yourself.
2) Point 1 leads to this point: your analogy is imperfect. The certainty of pulling a trigger is a wanton disregard for another, obviously. The recklessness here, unless she is certain that her comment, and hers alone, caused the banning of poster(s) (is it one? two? do you have evidence of even one poster get banned, before you make an allegation that she got more than one banned?), is of an entirely different magnitude than your analogy. In fact, most things in life are, and again, this analogy betrays your partiality because your emotions are getting in the way.
And again, you know that, ISUCK. You don't want to hear me out, because you know
I have no dog in this fight. I think my last post to MissP demonstrates this clearly, and when you have calmed yourself down, go back and see what I wrote to her. Really, it is amazing how two intelligent, well-meaning people can't get along. It blows me away how fickle humanity is....