Total Members Voted: 11
Voting closed: June 06, 2009, 08:21:39 PM
Saw dashrashi's LSN site. Since she seems to use profanity, one could say that HYP does not necessarily mean class or refinement.
I mean, what I'm getting from you, ctl, is that you haven't heard about the same situations I have. It was something like the guy being a credit short, having a job lined up through previous connections/jobs, all that he needed was a JD from somewhere, but it would have cost him a bunch of money he didn't have, and made him uproot his family, in order to get that last credit. I think he had something like a 165 (I could be pretty off on this, though, but it was a solidly good score) and had, I think, a scholarship from Cooley. I think he was possibly from Lansing, and planning to stay there, also. So I disagree about the safety of your assumptions. This guy didn't sound like 1800-RV-ATTY-7, despite not having a bachelor's, and it didn't really seem to make sense in his situation. Also, nealric just assumed that the guy's LSAT score wasn't good, without any reason to think that. So why recommend spending a year prepping for the LSAT? Hell, maybe the OP already did, reaped the benefits, but still doesn't quite have that BA sealed up? I don't know. Obviously, it's a rare situation, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. And given the history (see generally Matthies) of the profession, I'm not too inclined to cast aspersions on people limited in their options in this particular way. Telling the OP to "aim high" might not really be applicable--these might just be it for him and other options really are just not feasible. So maybe more options might be nice in some hypothetical world, but that doesn't make this some unbridled mistake, necessarily. All I'm saying.
I don't think we need to fall victim to relativism though. There are some suggestions that are wise. GENERALLY, I believe that having more options is much more valuable than having fewer options, which is why I think it is sage advice to tell someone to aim high when applying to law schools.
Also, nealric just assumed that the guy's LSAT score wasn't good
Quote from: comotellamas on May 19, 2009, 01:47:13 PMI don't think we need to fall victim to relativism though. There are some suggestions that are wise. GENERALLY, I believe that having more options is much more valuable than having fewer options, which is why I think it is sage advice to tell someone to aim high when applying to law schools.Well I look at it like this. I don’t even know where Whitter is. The common wisdom is thought that if you go there your screwed. Ok, fine, but where is this common wisdom coming from? People who go to Whitter or Cooley or Idaho or South Dakota or some other T4? No, its not. Too bad we don’t have more posters on here from T4 schools to give us first hand experiences. But we don’t maybe because if we did all their threads would turn into three pages of everyone telling them how much they suck and they would leave and never come back.We have a lot of posters from T2 schools and above and at least one from everyone of the top 14 schools (some have many posters). But as far as I know, no one who actually goes to Whitter or Cooley. Like I said, I don’t even know where Whitter is. So I’ll save my judgment on the schools and ones prospects.We can I think generally agree that going to a T4 school puts you at a disadvantage over going to a higher ranked school. I don’t think it’s as cut and dried as many make it out to be however, epically when your talking local schools. Why do I believe that, not because anyone told me, but simply because that’s been my own personal experience. I mean I had a lot of people tell me how hard it was going to be finding a job going to a T2 school. Well for me that has not been the case at all. My point is yes there is common wisdom, but at what point to we take someone else’s opinion to be fact that has not had any personal experience whith the subject he speaks with authority on? My cousins, brother’s dog groomer went there so I know everything about it? I mean does anyone here bashing this kid go to a T4? Has anyone here tried to get a job from Whitter, graduated from there, looked for jobs in Orange County? No. Instead we have people who don’t go to these schools and places like JD Underground again full of people who did not go to these schools telling people as if its fact what will happen to them if they go to these schools. Hell I have enough problems telling what my future will be in 30 mins, much less someone else’s who I have never met, who is a different situation than me, who’s going to a school I have never heard of, in market I’ve never even been to what their life is going to be like in 3+ years. I guess I tend to defer and prefer to hear it from the horse’s mouth than just chalk everything up to common wisdom. Common wisdom would have said: A) I’d never get into a law school, B- I would never make through law school, C- I would graduate at the bottom of my class, D- I would never get a job from my law school. If I had listen to common wisdom I would have made some really dumb decisions for myself based on what people who are not me, not in my position told me life would be like. I’m pretty glad at this point I did not listen to them. Maybe Whitter is full of people who wished they listened to the common wisdom and did not go there, I dunno, but I bet there are at least some folks who went there and reached their personal goals. I for one am in no position to be casting the first stone however, so I won’t tell other people what their life is going to be like when I can’t even control my own.I wish we had more students from T4 schools so would could actually here first had experiences, but I can see why, with thread like this, they don’t stick around log to share their experiences.
Quote from: Matthies on May 19, 2009, 02:22:17 PMQuote from: comotellamas on May 19, 2009, 01:47:13 PMI don't think we need to fall victim to relativism though. There are some suggestions that are wise. GENERALLY, I believe that having more options is much more valuable than having fewer options, which is why I think it is sage advice to tell someone to aim high when applying to law schools.Well I look at it like this. I don’t even know where Whitter is. The common wisdom is thought that if you go there your screwed. Ok, fine, but where is this common wisdom coming from? People who go to Whitter or Cooley or Idaho or South Dakota or some other T4? No, its not. Too bad we don’t have more posters on here from T4 schools to give us first hand experiences. But we don’t maybe because if we did all their threads would turn into three pages of everyone telling them how much they suck and they would leave and never come back.We have a lot of posters from T2 schools and above and at least one from everyone of the top 14 schools (some have many posters). But as far as I know, no one who actually goes to Whitter or Cooley. Like I said, I don’t even know where Whitter is. So I’ll save my judgment on the schools and ones prospects.We can I think generally agree that going to a T4 school puts you at a disadvantage over going to a higher ranked school. I don’t think it’s as cut and dried as many make it out to be however, epically when your talking local schools. Why do I believe that, not because anyone told me, but simply because that’s been my own personal experience. I mean I had a lot of people tell me how hard it was going to be finding a job going to a T2 school. Well for me that has not been the case at all. My point is yes there is common wisdom, but at what point to we take someone else’s opinion to be fact that has not had any personal experience whith the subject he speaks with authority on? My cousins, brother’s dog groomer went there so I know everything about it? I mean does anyone here bashing this kid go to a T4? Has anyone here tried to get a job from Whitter, graduated from there, looked for jobs in Orange County? No. Instead we have people who don’t go to these schools and places like JD Underground again full of people who did not go to these schools telling people as if its fact what will happen to them if they go to these schools. Hell I have enough problems telling what my future will be in 30 mins, much less someone else’s who I have never met, who is a different situation than me, who’s going to a school I have never heard of, in market I’ve never even been to what their life is going to be like in 3+ years. I guess I tend to defer and prefer to hear it from the horse’s mouth than just chalk everything up to common wisdom. Common wisdom would have said: A) I’d never get into a law school, B- I would never make through law school, C- I would graduate at the bottom of my class, D- I would never get a job from my law school. If I had listen to common wisdom I would have made some really dumb decisions for myself based on what people who are not me, not in my position told me life would be like. I’m pretty glad at this point I did not listen to them. Maybe Whitter is full of people who wished they listened to the common wisdom and did not go there, I dunno, but I bet there are at least some folks who went there and reached their personal goals. I for one am in no position to be casting the first stone however, so I won’t tell other people what their life is going to be like when I can’t even control my own.I wish we had more students from T4 schools so would could actually here first had experiences, but I can see why, with thread like this, they don’t stick around log to share their experiences. OMG.Matthies.You are seriously my favorite person on these boards. When you graduate, please lemme know your contact info, because I want YOU to be MY lawyer. haha.Seriously.
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