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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2009, 12:13:00 PM »
What items on my list do you support?  What items don't you support?
Call them whatever you want.  Call them "TheCause's crazy slogans" if you wish.

You were the one who labeled them "traditional values."  That's really the main problem I have: the suggestion that just because things are traditional, they must be good.

I wonder how much you've thought these through beyond the slogans.  How, for example, would you suggest that I, as a lawyer, could help preserve the Constitution? 

Not to be an ass, but to become a lawyer in most states you have to take an oath to, among other things, "preserve the Constitution." So I think just about every body on this board ought to at least agree with that one (even if your way or preserving is different from the OP's)
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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2009, 12:15:35 PM »
What items on my list do you support?  What items don't you support?
Call them whatever you want.  Call them "TheCause's crazy slogans" if you wish.

You were the one who labeled them "traditional values."  That's really the main problem I have: the suggestion that just because things are traditional, they must be good.

I wonder how much you've thought these through beyond the slogans.  How, for example, would you suggest that I, as a lawyer, could help preserve the Constitution? 

Not to be an ass, but to become a lawyer in most states you have to take an oath to, among other things, "preserve the Constitution." So I think just about every body on this board ought to at least agree with that one (even if your way or preserving is different from the OP's)

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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2009, 12:16:00 PM »
What items on my list do you support?  What items don't you support?
Call them whatever you want.  Call them "TheCause's crazy slogans" if you wish.

You were the one who labeled them "traditional values."  That's really the main problem I have: the suggestion that just because things are traditional, they must be good.

I wonder how much you've thought these through beyond the slogans.  How, for example, would you suggest that I, as a lawyer, could help preserve the Constitution? 

Well, if you focus on the amendments:
You may have the opportunity to protect the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th amendments on a regular basis.  Of course the other amendments might be applicable as well.

I also think the preamble says it well:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...

And there are many ways that you can ensure that the constitution continues to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence,  promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to you and your posterity.






So you're good with ACLU lawyers then?  And those of us who want to use the Eighth Amendment to ban the death penalty?

And I was asking you to tell me what those ways are exactly.  In your mind.
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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2009, 12:22:40 PM »
What items on my list do you support?  What items don't you support?
Call them whatever you want.  Call them "TheCause's crazy slogans" if you wish.

You were the one who labeled them "traditional values."  That's really the main problem I have: the suggestion that just because things are traditional, they must be good.

I wonder how much you've thought these through beyond the slogans.  How, for example, would you suggest that I, as a lawyer, could help preserve the Constitution? 

Not to be an ass, but to become a lawyer in most states you have to take an oath to, among other things, "preserve the Constitution." So I think just about every body on this board ought to at least agree with that one (even if your way or preserving is different from the OP's)

Preserving the constitution dose not necessarily mean preserving that status as its stands now. Most of our constitutional jurisprudence is based on reinterpreting the constitution as society has evolved. Even Scalila would say the document is open to some interpretation, so preserving it and challenging it, are not mutually exclusive positions.
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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2009, 12:25:38 PM »
What items on my list do you support?  What items don't you support?
Call them whatever you want.  Call them "TheCause's crazy slogans" if you wish.

You were the one who labeled them "traditional values."  That's really the main problem I have: the suggestion that just because things are traditional, they must be good.

I wonder how much you've thought these through beyond the slogans.  How, for example, would you suggest that I, as a lawyer, could help preserve the Constitution? 

Not to be an ass, but to become a lawyer in most states you have to take an oath to, among other things, "preserve the Constitution." So I think just about every body on this board ought to at least agree with that one (even if your way or preserving is different from the OP's)

Preserving the constitution dose not necessarily mean preserving that status as its stands now. Most of our constitutional jurisprudence is based on reinterpreting the constitution as society has evolved. Even Scalila would say the document is open to some interpretation, so preserving it and challenging it, are not mutually exclusive positions.

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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2009, 01:16:30 PM »
I am impressed how OP manages to stay on track and objective while discussing his beliefs, which people are taking apart lol, agree with him or not..its impressive he is having a mature disucssion and tolerant of other peoples view instead of flying of the handle and calling people all sorts of things like most traditionalist do when people disagree with them.
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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2009, 01:22:07 PM »
I am impressed how OP manages to stay on track and objective while discussing his beliefs, which people are taking apart lol, agree with him or not..its impressive he is having a mature disucssion and tolerant of other peoples view instead of flying of the handle and calling people all sorts of things like most traditionalist people do when people disagree with them.


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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2009, 06:08:34 PM »
I am impressed how OP manages to stay on track and objective while discussing his beliefs, which people are taking apart lol, agree with him or not..its impressive he is having a mature disucssion and tolerant of other peoples view instead of flying of the handle and calling people all sorts of things like most traditionalist people do when people disagree with them.



Thanks for editing my post, I got the point lol.
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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #78 on: April 08, 2009, 09:41:25 AM »
Future Lawyers: Protect this country!
- Preserve the constitution.
- Maintain the limits on the federal government
- Teach your children to be patriotic and proud of this country.
- Stop the assault on religion.
- Protect traditional marriage.
- Encourage innovation through incentives and competition.
- Don't allow socialism to gain traction.
- Stop the endless flow of easily accessible pornography.
- Spend more time with your family and less time at work.

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Re: We must return to traditional values.
« Reply #79 on: April 08, 2009, 07:34:50 PM »
Future Lawyers: Protect this country!
- Preserve the constitution.
- Maintain the limits on the federal government
- Teach your children to be patriotic and proud of this country.
- Stop the assault on religion.
- Protect traditional marriage.
- Encourage innovation through incentives and competition.
- Don't allow socialism to gain traction.
- Stop the endless flow of easily accessible pornography.
- Spend more time with your family and less time at work.

glenn beck, that you?

hahaha, that was too funny. You had me laughing out loud in unappropriate venue lol.

That Glen Beck, man does he have serious emotional issues lol
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