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Youk

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Rutgers-Newark - Thoughts other than Newark is brutal?
« on: March 19, 2009, 03:32:11 PM »
Anyone have general scoop/insight on Rutgers-Newark?  I know Newark is brutal, but general insight/info is appreciated regarding placement, success etc etc. 

Not BigLaw related so no need to push the fact that it's not T14 etc etc etc.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Rutgers-Newark - Thoughts other than Newark is brutal?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 07:13:02 PM »
I posted this on another forum, but here's some placement data for you vs. Seton Hall. The fact Rutgers now makes the data easily available and fairly transparent gives them major props in my book.

Rutgers just released a pretty good picture of their job statistics on their new website. Since the Amlaw 250 is a few years older I thought this would be helpful... I happen to have data from Seton Hall's employment outlook last year, so I thought I'd put them both up so undecided students could be better informed. Let me first give major props to Rutgers for making the data available, it wasn't easy acquiring the data from Seton Hall.

(NOTE: This is Rutgers class of 2007 being compared to Seton Hall's class of 2006)

RUTGERS-N DATA:
Data available here: http://law.newark.rutgers.edu/career-development/employment-statistics some notes on private practice:

19.4% of the 46% are at firms of 2-10 attorneys
7.4% of the of the 46% are at firms of 11-25 attorneys
4.6% of the 46% are at firms of 26-50 attorneys
18.5% of the 46% are at firms of 51-100 attorneys
12.0% of the 46% are at firms of 101-250 attorneys
15.7% of the 46% are at firms of 251-500 attorneys
15.7% of the 46% are at firms of 501+ attorneys


SETON HALL DATA:

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361 graduates in the class of 2006, of which 348 (or 96.9%) reported themselves as employed. An additional 5 (or 1.4%) were pursuing other advanced degrees. The remaining balance either reported as unemployed or did not respond to the survey (for a total of 1.7%).

Of the 348 students who responded to the survey with employment data:
136 (or 39%) are in private practice. Almost 25% of our graduates who are in private practice are employed at large law firms - those with over 100 attorneys.
141 (or 40.5%) are employed in government positions - including Judicial Clerkships
53 (or 15.2%) are employed in a business or corporate environment.
5 (or 1.44%) are employed in a public interest field.
4 (or 1.2%) are employed in academic settings.

26.47% of the 39% are at firms of 2 to 10 attorneys with an average salary of $53,191
16.18% of the 39% are at firms of 11 to 25 attorneys with an average salary of $62,841
5.88% of the 39% are at firms of 26 to 50 attorneys with an average salary of $73,125
8.09% of the 39% are at firms of 51 to 100 attorneys with an average salary of $85,136
6.62% of the 39% are at firms of 101 to 250 attorneys with an average salary of $107,167
7.35% of the 39% are at firms of 251 to 500 attorneys with an average salary of $133,000
9.56% of the 39% are at firms of 500+ attorneys with an average salary of $135,385
18.38% of the 39% did not specify the size of the firm
1.47% of the 39% are self-employed

Conclusion: Rutgers still appears to offer a significant edge in placement at a fraction of the cost. 9.17 % Seton Hall's class ended up at firms with more than 100 attorneys... 19.97% of Rutgers class ended up at firms with more than 100 attorneys (not to mention students from both schools who took the clerkship route and could have gone to mid-size and large firms)

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Re: Rutgers-Newark - Thoughts other than Newark is brutal?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 10:53:23 PM »
I know Newark is brutal, but ...



Have you ever been to Newark?  "Brutal" is perhaps an understatement.  Even by Jersey standards, Newark is very rough.  Don't bother buying a nice car if you go there.