"But we as blacks and people of color would be appalled if a white law school lamented a significant rise in Black students and proclaimed that something had to be done about it. It may be difficult to accept, but we must live as we ask others to live. HBCU's can serve their mission if we improve the conditions of our homes and schools. Black students must come prepared to compete...and if we are able to compete, we will be rewarded. HBCU's will continue to serve the Black community. That more white students are being exposed to Black culture and Black students, thus, a richer diversity of experiences, is a GOOD thing. We should welcome them into our schools and not be afraid...as we have long been asking them to do for us. If we are going to progress into a more pluralistic society, we must continue to use our voices, strive for excellence, and lead by example. LOL! Did I just write that idealistic psycho-babble? "LawDog: What is written above is the principle reason behind why the blip on the Uncle Tom radar appeared. The above seemed sort of Uncle Tomesque. Futhermore, I wrote....If you are not an Uncle Tom......the key word is if. Sorry to upset you brotha'.Byron: You foolish white man. Claiming libel? If you grow up around a group of people, wouldn't those people be considered acquaintances? I guess not. Furthermore I used the term suggessted, I didn't quote you verbatim,you used tangential language, I simply sliced through your attempted charade. Minorities are more protected than the majority nowadays Yes, you could be right..I mean just ask any grand wizard. Matter of fact, a grand wizard used that exact same line in the film A Time To Kill. Perhaps if you wind up at Howard, or encounter the black people that you claim to have grown up around, perhaps you should express that sentiment, and discover for yourself what water's temperature you find yourself in. Mr. Byron, bless your heart... the network that Imus broadcasted on is not responsible for what inexplicable racial slurs come out of his mouth no more than the golf channel where kelly tillman uttered racists remarks about Tiger Woods ("lynch him in the back alley"). Moreover, I suppose there's no bat-eating, satanic rock stars on MTV, or any star by the name of Marilyn Manson who MTV and VH1 choose to air. Once again, Byron, you are not black, you never will be, no matter how many black people you claim to know, you have never been in the trenches with the black community, so when I comes to speaking about the black commmunity and "identifying" you should be quiet. You simply want to pretend that racism is fiction; I'd consider it a bonus if you didn't think the scurrilous New York Post cartoon's (by Sean Delonas) dipiction of President Obama as a bullet-filled chimpanzee to be racist, and this occured yesterday, don't speak about racism being outdated. The more you speak, the more you reveal that your heart is imbued with racism, no matter how much you try to obfuscate.
Gretchen: As I'm sure you noticed, I used "mulatto" on purpose to see who would complain about it first and to show how uptight political correctness makes people. Congratulations, you win. If you don't know the definition of the word, there are plenty of online dictionaries that can help you out with that. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that cross burnings never take place, only that they occur so rarely as to be a completely negligible statistic. When I say that the minorities are more protected than the majority, I am referring to the institution of affirmative action and groups like the SPLC and the ADL. Of course, if anyone formed a group to protect the rights of white people there would be a public furor. Also, try starting a "White Law Students" club or group and see how well that goes over. Do you see my point?
I suppose it's safe to conclude that you and I don't agree on this particular subject. Furthermore, I'm not against white people attending HBCU's per se. I'm in opposition to some of their motives. Motives of individuals such as Taft52.LawDog, you want to pretend to yourself that blacks and whites started out on equal footing. White people in America have been the oppressors. No white people were ever made to feel inferior because the color of their white skin (that no human has control of), no white people were expected, by law, to sit at the backs of buses, no white people were precluded, by law, from being part of the electorate, no white people were forced to attend separate but unequal schools, so don't talk about what a white Harvard or Penn law student would say if too many blacks were getting in, because considering America's history, a white student wouldn't be qualified to express that sentiment. No white people were promised fourty acres and a mule, you know why LawDog? Because they owned all of the land that is referred to as the U.S.A. and it was an exclusive fraternity.Moreover, I would want the individual (who doesn't necessarily have to be white) across the hiring desk, to hire me (or anyone else) because of qualifications and merit, not because he/she is some HBCU alumnus. That's what I want LawDog, and frankly, thats what we want, and precisely what our forebears who sacrificed their lives envisaged.Furthermore, the pragmatist President whom you choose to liken yourself to has explained in his book, The Audacity of Hope, how he fully understands and is fully conscious of racism, how it hasn't evaporated. The President describes (in the race chapter) how white privilege does exist, and how a white couple threw their car keys at him simply because he was a black man standing outside of an upscale restaurant. You on the other hand, would make an excuse for the white couple and delude yourself into thinking racism was in no way connected, and the key tossing was simply a misunderstanding.You and this equal footing rhetoric, read this joke by Bill Cosby:"Two white men were riding their horses in the desert wielding swords.They were taking turns trying to slice the head of a black man, who was burried neck deep.As one of the white horsemen tried to slice the black man, the black man somehow, managed to move his head.Frustrated, exasperated, the white men on their horses shout, 'fight fair n*gger!!!'"
Quote from: byron2008 on February 20, 2009, 03:20:59 PMGretchen: As I'm sure you noticed, I used "mulatto" on purpose to see who would complain about it first and to show how uptight political correctness makes people. Congratulations, you win. If you don't know the definition of the word, there are plenty of online dictionaries that can help you out with that. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that cross burnings never take place, only that they occur so rarely as to be a completely negligible statistic. When I say that the minorities are more protected than the majority, I am referring to the institution of affirmative action and groups like the SPLC and the ADL. Of course, if anyone formed a group to protect the rights of white people there would be a public furor. Also, try starting a "White Law Students" club or group and see how well that goes over. Do you see my point?http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/home.shtmlAlso, SPLC? Talk about your irrelevant historical artifacts. Not that it bolsters your claim about minority institutions since Morris Dees and Joe Levin are as white as they come . . .I don't really care about whether white people go to HBCUs as long as they don't dilute the schools' missions, but I don't think someone with your disrespect toward civil rights institutions and history would feel very comfortable at Howard.
Also, lawdog, do you see how exasperated you feel? That's what you inspire in others.