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Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2008, 01:39:22 PM »
The philosopher question was kind of redundant.

Pretty much all we know about the philosophy of Socrates is through the writings of Plato. They really can't be distinguished ideologically.

Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."
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« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2008, 02:07:37 PM »
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Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

Such quotes are apocryphal.
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« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2008, 02:10:24 PM »
What's funny to me about this whole quiz is that high school students might know more of the answers if it wasn't for "reforms" like No Child Left Behind, which stresses test scores (not content knowledge) and only in English and Math.  Also, state standards don't really allow for too much teaching of pre-Civil War history -- they figure kids should have learned this in the 8th grade (at least in my state). 


I'm glad this quiz points out what many educators already know.
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« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2008, 02:17:42 PM »
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Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

Such quotes are apocryphal.

Eh, I don't know much about this stuff, as I said.  It's been a long time since I pretended to read the Apology, etc.
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Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2008, 02:42:43 PM »
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

yes, but it not, no?
It not, but say "nothing else even close" not accurate in my estimation. Debt and deficit related concepts.
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« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2008, 02:48:33 PM »
Debt and deficit related concepts.

I imagine this question was intended primarily to test that people knew the difference.  But if that's the case, they should have actually asked a question about debts and deficits, I think. (In any case, the most annoying thing about it to me is the misleading implication that government can raise money only through taxes and therefore spending must be limited unless you want your taxes to go up  -- Oh noes!)
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« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2008, 06:39:43 PM »
this not julie's strongest area either, but what your criticism of a?

27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money

There's no inherent reason that A is true, but neoclassical economics accepts it as axiomatic. Also, as a practical matter, the price system also fails sometimes. I thought E was at least as close to being true (if more ridiculously laden with free market dogma). A huge reason capitalist economies have experienced such tremendous expansion is because the profit motive spurs capital investment beyond what is required to address human need.

in any case, e seem very weak answer indeed.  at least, there no dogma associated with it.

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« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2008, 06:43:56 PM »

what your problem with b? what your other neat-choice, e?--as, presumably, socialist critique of government role in capitalism?

25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers

I answered B because I knew that it was the credited response. Nonetheless, it's not very accurate in the context of modern capitalism which has very little to do with "individual citizens" creating and controlling goods and resources. Perhaps if it specified "corporate citizens."

I think E is just as valid: modern capitalism exists only to the extent that government policies favor businesses. If they favored consumers, we would have a much more tightly regulated economy.


asto e, not government intrerference of any kind essentially disruption of market?  (julie not say intervention necessarily bad, just disruption of "free market forces"--assuming, julie guess, there such thing in practice.)

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« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2008, 06:46:40 PM »
The philosopher question was kind of redundant.

Pretty much all we know about the philosophy of Socrates is through the writings of Plato. They really can't be distinguished ideologically.

Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

but he wrote fine syllogism.

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« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2008, 06:48:14 PM »
What's funny to me about this whole quiz is that high school students might know more of the answers if it wasn't for "reforms" like No Child Left Behind, which stresses test scores (not content knowledge) and only in English and Math. Also, state standards don't really allow for too much teaching of pre-Civil War history -- they figure kids should have learned this in the 8th grade (at least in my state).


I'm glad this quiz points out what many educators already know.

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