Matthies, I totally get what you're saying, and I'm not arguing that the first-year associates are as important a part of the firm as a rain-making partner. I think that what you're saying is much more applicable to small or mid-size firms where the need to bring in business is a much more immediate concern. If you guys want to make it an assumption in the above calculation that a lot of first year hours get cut, I'm fine with that. But for the first year above to be costing the firm money, they would need to have almost 3/4 of their hours cut. Again, I'm not disputing your point that first-years are less profitable and a bit of a drag, and so forth. But the idea that they cost more than they make is a myth that serves the pyramid scheme.