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ABA the true villian
« on: October 08, 2008, 11:57:52 AM »
ABA The True Admissions Villain

By Walter Williams (African-American professor and columnist)

Last week's column demonstrated the harm, suffered by black students, that results from law school race-based admission policies. The bottom line was that black students who might have done well at lower-tier law schools were recruited to more highly competitive law schools and turned into failures. One might be tempted to place the full blame for such callousness on deans of law schools, but the true villain is the American Bar Association.

The American Bar Association is the accreditation agency for all law schools. If a law school has not been accredited by the ABA, it is ineligible for federal funding; its students are ineligible for student loans; most states do not allow graduates of a non-ABA- accredited law school to sit for the bar examination. As Professor Gail Heriot says in her article "Affirmative Action in American Law Schools," in the Journal of Contemporary Legal Issues (2008), "A law school that is not in the good graces of the ABA is thus not a law school at all."

George Mason University Law School's experience provides an excellent example of ABA abuse. In 2004, the ABA summoned the university president and the law school dean before its Accreditation Committee and threatened the institution with revocation of its accreditation for its supposed lack of diversity. Shivering in their boots, the GMU administration reported a diversity improvement since the ABA's site visit in 2000. Their entering class of 2003 was 17 percent minority and their 2004 class was 19 percent minority and they had appointed a diversity czar. Despite these efforts, the ABA was not satisfied. They complained that of the 99 minority students admitted in 2003, only 23 were black, and of the 111 minorities admitted in 2004, still only 23 were black, even though, in 2004, 63 black students had been offered admission.

Virginia has two other major public law schools, College of William & Mary and the University of Virginia. They did not win the ire of the ABA because unlike GMU, they practice a racially discriminatory admissions policy. The Center for Equal Opportunity monitors racially discriminatory college policy. Its publication, "Racial and Ethnic Preferences at the Three Virginia Public Law Schools" (www.ceousa.org/content/view/ 467/119/), reported that at the University of Virginia, a student with an LSAT score of 160 and an undergraduate GPA of 3.25 had a 96 percent chance of admission if he or she was black, but only a 3 percent chance of admission if white. At William & Mary, a black with an LSAT score of 155 and an undergraduate GPA of 3.0 had a 92 percent chance of being admitted while a white with the same credentials had a 3 percent chance of admission. At GMU, not having racist policies, the chances for admission were roughly the same. Blacks with an LSAT of 155 and an undergraduate GPA of 3.0 had a 53 percent chance of admission while similar whites had a 50 percent chance.

The bullying practices of the ABA are truly a wicked, disgusting perversion. George Mason University Law School, which does not practice racially discriminatory admissions policy, is brought on the carpet by the ABA whilst University of Virginia and William & Mary, which have racially discriminatory admissions policies, have little problem. The sad fact of the matter is the ABA holds enormous life and death power over law schools and they must cave in to ABA demands or else.

Several years ago, I taught "Economic Foundations of Legal Studies" at George Mason University Law School. I have attended many of their lecture series and social functions. As such I can attest to the high quality and moral stature of their faculty and administration. It pains me to see my very distinguished colleagues being forced to cave in to the racist demands of the American Bar Association.

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 08:18:32 PM »
link to last week's column?

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 11:32:57 PM »
I believe it.
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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 11:48:24 PM »
It is a shame that liberals and law schools feel like black people cannot possibly achieve greatness academically without their help. The ABA feels as though they are trying to prevent racism, but actually, they are promoting it. GMU is the one, in this case, that is not being racist.

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 03:56:29 AM »
It is a shame that liberals and law schools feel like black people cannot possibly achieve greatness academically without their help. The ABA feels as though they are trying to prevent racism, but actually, they are promoting it. GMU is the one, in this case, that is not being racist.

I'm white.

There's a difference between subjecting myself to "racism"* and being subjected to it.

@#!* off.

*In quotation marks, on purpose, for good reason.
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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 04:17:13 AM »
It is a shame that liberals and law schools feel like black people cannot possibly achieve greatness academically without their help. The ABA feels as though they are trying to prevent racism, but actually, they are promoting it. GMU is the one, in this case, that is not being racist.

I'm white.

There's a difference between subjecting myself to "racism"* and being subjected to it.

@#!* off.

*In quotation marks, on purpose, for good reason.

I think you're both saying about the same thing, for what it's worth.
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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »
Pig Floyd, you are a moron. Get a life.

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2008, 10:00:53 AM »
There are plenty more reasons to hate the ABA. 

The ABA continues to accredit new law schools despite the overwhelming number of new law graduates.

The ABA sanctions outsourcing of attorney jobs to foreign countries.  Why is it ok that Americans have to spend 7 years and tens of thousands of dollars AND pass the bar in order to practice law, when foreigners with no bar admission and often just an undergrad degree are allowed to engage in de facto practice?

The ABA does not require accredited law schools to submit their published employment data for independent audit as a condition of maintaining accreditation.  This so-called 'profession' claims to be self regulating, but it is clear that many law schools engage in deceptive marketing practices that are illegal in most states.

Despite what the ABA states about diversity, advancing the profession, etc, these people are not our friends.  They are little more than a lobby that advances the cause (increasing Profits Per Partner) of biglaw partners.

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2008, 09:52:21 PM »
Glad you guys enjoyed the article. I certainly did.

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Re: ABA the true villian
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 05:26:58 AM »
There are plenty more reasons to hate the ABA. 

The ABA continues to accredit new law schools despite the overwhelming number of new law graduates.

The ABA sanctions outsourcing of attorney jobs to foreign countries.  Why is it ok that Americans have to spend 7 years and tens of thousands of dollars AND pass the bar in order to practice law, when foreigners with no bar admission and often just an undergrad degree are allowed to engage in de facto practice?

The ABA does not require accredited law schools to submit their published employment data for independent audit as a condition of maintaining accreditation.  This so-called 'profession' claims to be self regulating, but it is clear that many law schools engage in deceptive marketing practices that are illegal in most states.

Despite what the ABA states about diversity, advancing the profession, etc, these people are not our friends.  They are little more than a lobby that advances the cause (increasing Profits Per Partner) of biglaw partners.

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