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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2008, 11:46:12 PM »
...how can obama possibly shake himself from his bill ayers relationship...why do people think barack involved himself with ayers in the beginning anyway? this liberal "urban terrorist" and radical ideologist has had a massive history of disruption...this is not playing well in ohio and pa...florida and nevada are scratching their heads as well...


it goes as an exposition of a one term senator who has spent two years campaigning that VETTING process is part of the preparation...and this controversial relationship with radical bill ayers is hurting obama....

he has a long way to go...perhaps 2012 he will run again...and he will be a little more seasoned...





can you please stop mentioning pennsylvania? Obama has a huge, almost insurmountable lead there, so please, stop.


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you mean in philadelphia...and they have 5 million new democrats registered as well right... :D :D :D
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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2008, 11:46:33 PM »
...barack obama should have come clean about his most AGREEABLE relationship with radical idealogue, bill ayers

...from the get go...too late, now that the genie is out of the bottle and the election is fast approaching...the daedlus character, who is william ayers has not taught icarus about the "Fall of pride"...and october is the month for the sun to shine bright...

and pride cometh...

...part of the problem is that the vetting process is tedious and the devil is in the details...and usually as a politician seasons...the skeletons in the political closet disintegrate into ghosts...

not all the ghosts have been exorcized...

don't forget about middle america...don't forget about the intelligent independents and much of america who know mccain from mccain-feingold...mccain-kennedy....mccain-lieberman...not to mention the fact that mccain IS well versed in foreign relations without consultation...unlike the villian, george bush...

so...those who have succumb to the two year "cult of personality" that is barack obama...check out for a moment...because ya'll ignorant of some basic things...go take a nap or a time out...thanks...but you don't see how close to the sun icarus is climbing...icarus got his information from daedlus...and daedlus is a "radical socialist through violence/radical through subversive thought-control"...daedlus is the "dark sarcasm in the classroom"...


all the skeletons in barack obama's rise to his state senatorship are still rattling...70,000 pledged delegates to alice palmer were thrown out in a "legal" political move by barack to eliminate her from the democratic ticket in 1996...she was the incumbant and she needed signatures to run again???...as the incumbant???

are those skeletons the politics of change? are those the politics of hope??...chicago politics perhaps, but don't socialist dictators like chavez and  didn't tyrannical dictators like saddham hussein employ the same tactics?  thank god this is the usa and we see it as politics as usual...  ::)  however...to an independent mind...this is not the politics of unification...these are the politics of division and dictators...

mr. barack's response..."i'm sorry"..."it wasn't me"...smells like the stench of illinois bullshite to this independent trinidad american...smells like barack is trying to sell some "oily" political bull poo poo...


and barack won't come clean about his many discussions with william ayers...bill ayers...a real "radical liberal hack"...a former dangerous bomber, in fact...a smart man who is very uncomfortable in his own body...and one who outwardly and wholeheartedly advocates "radical fundamental change" by whatever means necessary...in his youth it was bombing the pentagon...bombing the capital...until he got too close to the sun himself...his ghosts still haunt him...but subversively he peddles "radical change" in the form of "subversive education"....he is the teacher in the pink floyd song...well mr. ayers we don't need no education...we don't need no thought control...no dark sarcasm in the classroom...mr. ayers...leave them kids alone...

this deadlus created his wax wings in the form of "radical fundamental ideological change"...and instead of bombs...he used his influence over the youth...he assisted barack obama in many ways...and the two were very good associates...if not friends...to many of us...william ayers assisted a very pedestrian writer, barack obama with much of the poetic aspects of "dreams of my father"...

do people think that this story is going to go away????  is it really as negative as trying to tie mccain to bush???

come on...get real...don't be duped...if tying mccain to bush is fair...then trying to find out what obama's relationship with bill ayers is most certainly game...


the marrow of many discussions between william ayers...ex-urban bomber...and barack obama sit in barack's old closet back at his sangamon office in chicago...

it is nearly impossible for a questioning mind or just an "armchair skeptic" to believe that there was no echo throught 1996...1997...1998...1999 in barack's sangamon office of many cofabulations between barack and his old gray ghost, bill ayers... ayers metaphorical idle youth has been partially exorcised...

but for barack obama...one term senator, barack obama...he is now dealing with the skeleton that is william ayers and this skeleton is rattling loud...the echoes of william ayers and barack obama's conversations are resonating across the nation...perhaps not in california or new york...but in the rest of the country...independents want to know...

be warned that this relationship is being scrutinized and evaluated and it is most certainly keeping the electorate pondering what was going on in chicago between william ayers...and mr. barack obama...and what exactly is the relationship between mrs. obama and bernadine dohrn...how much do we know about their dealings within their former law firm??? questions still need to be answered...and many of the independents in fl,pa,oh,nv are waiting...

after all...barack claims that he knew william ayers...and what else...mr. one term senator???

what else???

why do you want to raise taxes in an economic cluster-cane???
this is something right out of a "radical socialist playbook"...very obvious.


but barack is like icarus...who fell to the sin of pride and flew too close to the sun...his wings of "false hope" and "radical fundamental change" are the same mantra of bill ayers...but no bombs...just a subversive socialist agenda...beginning with raising taxes on the backbone american businesses of 200,000 and 250,000 income...ayers is like daedalus...and aye am sure he warned barack that one term in the u.s. senate may not be good enough...

well to this independent...a one term u.s. senator is not nearly enough time to ripen...and too dangerous to trust...
and aye am sure aye am not the only independent who thinks this way...

barack will be the one who's "radical taxation and re distribution of wealth agenda" {which barack has made very clear to our "everyman" metaphor..."joe the plumber"}...will melt and be brought him crashing down...

obama is our icarus character, barack obama has flown too close to the sun...much too quickly...much to presumptively...with much audacity...

...what makes a man with a "cult of personality" believe that he can bring a taxation upon the financial core of the american people without being questioned?  this is how tyrants rise...too much...too soon...too close to the sun...

during these dangerous and transitional times we need someone who actually has experience...and has been THOUROUGHLY vetted...

the MAJOR divisive ads and rhetoric of the barack obama machines' platform of trying to tie mccain to george bush is a subversive attack and not a unifying uplifting optimistic approach by any measurement...

the obama machine's massive amount of money poured into the negative campaign attempting to tie mccain to bush has been very taxing indeed...and while democrats buy into it...

many of us independents do not...


so it is clearly a destructive campaign that obama is peddling as hope...obama's sphincteral rhetoric closes around a platform of negativity...and while cbs...msnbc...cnn...and fox give this bile a pass...many of us independents shake our head at the incontenent behavior of the corporate media so-called-journalists...who have allowed their colonic of obama's mccain/bush divisiveness to reverberate in their news cycles...

and now the diharreah of divisiveness obama excretes in attempting to run against george bush...seems like a waste of money...when all barack had to do was campaign with public financing...barack flat out lied...he saw the money feeding his coffers and thought...no! aye will go back on my word and the media will support me...and america will not bother to recognize that i lied...but barack will justify this with the political game he is trying to sell...stupidly thinking that america can't recognize "snake oil"...

barack is obviously manipulating some poor souls with a "cult of personality" if he believes that he can bring a taxation upon the financial core of the american people without being questioned?  this is how tyrants rise...too much...too soon...too close to the sun...

but many in middle america...many in florida...many in ohio...many in pennsylvania...many in ohio are cajoling:



hey barack..."hold on there young fella..."...


in barack obama's case...in his haste to become "commander in chief" he has made waste of his short political career in the u.s. senate .but how can you blame barack...he arrived as a u.s. senator in 2004 and quickly, greedily saw that he could use his oration gift to propel himself to a prominent political position..

obama probably doesn't know the story of icarus...but bigger men have fallen...and pride will be barack obama's undoing in the end...



 


Crossing Paths Daily: Obama and Ayers Shared an Office (Update: For Three Years)
John on October 16, 2008

It’s nice to be the guy getting tips for once instead of the guy sending them. Yesterday I got two great tips from Morgen, a reader who had found my earlier posts digging into the Obama Ayers connection. Both tips appear to check out and the second one is, I think, big news.

First, the smaller one…

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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2008, 11:48:08 PM »

This Chicago Annenberg Challenge website from 2002 shows the total amount of funds given to Bill Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop from 1995 to 2001. The amount is not the $175K I had reported earlier. According to this page, the total given under Barack Obama’s direct supervision was $1,056,162. Adding that amount to the money given by the Joyce Foundation and Woods Fund during Obama’s tenure brings the grand total to $1,968,718. Just shy of two million dollars! That’s a lot of scratch, to put it bluntly. And don’t forget, this doesn’t count the 3/4 million that went to John Ayers during the same time period.

Now here’s the second and bigger break, again big hat tip to Morgen for his work on this…

Bill Ayers and Barack Obama shared an office. Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop, the one Obama directed all that money to is located at 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607 [Note the link is to a year 2000 version of their website]. Here’s a screen grab from the website’s footer:



In 1998, the address for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where Obama presumably worked, was 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607. Here’s a copy of their 1998 tax return with that address:



The CAC moved to a new address sometime in 1999 or 2000, but the shared office probably persisted for at least three years. I can’t say for sure because 1998 is the earliest tax information available online. [Correction: I can say for sure that they shared the same building for the years 1995-1998. Here is a 1995 progress report from the CAC with the same address.]

Now remember, the NY Times described Obama and Ayers as having “crossed paths.” Ben LaBolt, Obama’s spokesman said:

Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood.

I’m going to suggest that two guys working in the same building for a period of years probably crossed paths pretty often. For all we know, they had lunch together on a daily basis. Maybe, in an effort at conservation, they were even carpool buddies. After all, Ayers is a guy from Obama’s neighborhood.

Would someone at the Times like to contact Mr. LaBolt for a follow-up?

Update: Made the correction above. Also, Obama was a state senator from 1996-2004. However, he still likely spent some significant time at the Sangamon street address, especially in 1995. But even after his election he would presumably be working on his CAC duties at the Sangamon office, not from some other location.

According to this letter dated 1995, Obama’s office was on the 3rd floor:



And according to this memo dated 1996, Small Schools Workshop was also on the 3rd floor:



Do you think maybe Obama and Bill Ayers ran into each other once in a while?

Update 10/19: There’s been a lot of effort to identify the building in question. A tipster from Chicago told me he thought it had been demolished, but apparently one of Ace’s commenters drove by the area today and identified this as the bulding:



Here’s a flickr stream of all the photos. The building is shuttered now, but notice that the word “Hope” has been placed in the windows of the third floor. Maybe that’s as in “audacity of…”




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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2008, 01:22:18 AM »
a little indigo intuition for ya ta ponder, mon...

hecate...o, well done! I commend your pains;
and everyone shall share i' the gains.
and now about the cauldron sing,
like elves and fairies in a ring,
enchanting all that you put in.

"speech"
black spirits and white, red spirits and gray;
mingle, mingle, mingle, you that mingle may.

[exit Hecate.]

second witch...
by the pricking of my thumbs,

something wicked this way comes:--
open, locks, whoever knocks!

[Enter Obama...]




and we all know how the prideful macbeth ended his hasty rise in blood thirst for glory...crushing everyone who helped him and he all those he knew under his words and cast them all aside...


"pride goeth before the fall"

it seems that something wicked this way comes ends or begins on the 23 of october...


obama's campaign seems like it is more hype than anything else..."the cult of personality" is realized...


...is obama a reincarnation of shaka speare's macbeth?????


...their narratives seem metaphorically similar...






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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2008, 08:46:23 AM »
can't even come up with different messages for different threads, eh?

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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2008, 09:03:25 AM »
...even the obama campaign does not think obama is ready to lead...

...he will not be able to handle "commander in chief" job.

...word is out
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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2008, 10:37:38 AM »
you completely immune sarcasm.

plus, you total dipshit.

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« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2008, 01:31:09 AM »
believe me...joe biden has summed it up succinctly...and they have been listening to biden in luzerne and lackawanna county...and the "clinging to guns and religion" is not going away anytime soon...

and many share biden's fears...but then again...many independents have suspected this all along...


BIDEN sums up why obama is not the man for the job:

"Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you,

After again touting Cantwell's judgment, Biden told the crowd to "gird your loins


gird your loins...because biden doesn't think obama has the balls for the "commander in chief" job...

and he let america know it... ;)


...hope obama hasn't picked out paint for the oval office...

...because mccain is already "commander in chief" tested...
 



...what is barack going to do now...throw biden under the bus for being realistic???.. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D






Obama just may have lost the election with this revelation..
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« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2008, 01:43:19 AM »



Obama just may have lost the election with this revelation..

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Please tell me you don't believe that. What a joke!

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« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2008, 04:34:34 PM »



Obama just may have lost the election with this revelation..



Please tell me you don't believe that. What a joke!
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this is very scary...obama's v.p. is worried...and we should be too...as aye have said before....

obama is a novice...a freshman...and NOT prepared for the commander in chief position...


NEW YORK TIMES..

Biden’s Crisis Remarks Reverberate
By John M. Broder

The campaign of Senator John McCain is trying to capitalize on some potentially ambiguous words from Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, at a Seattle fund-raiser Sunday night.

Mr. Biden predicted that Senator Barack Obama, if he is elected president, will quickly face a challenge from some hostile power or terrorist group eager to test the resolve of the rookie chief executive.

Mark my words,” Mr. Biden warned at the Seattle fund-raiser, according to reports from network producers traveling with him, “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember, I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

He added, “He’s going to have to make some really tough - I don’t know what the decision’s going to be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s going to happen.” He said he could envision four or five scenarios that might arise to challenge the new president, citing Russia or the Middle East as possible sources of trouble.


He then called on the donors to be prepared to rise to Mr. Obama’s defense because he will need to make some difficult and unpopular choices in response. “I’ve forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you,” Mr. Biden told the donors, by way of reassuring them of his and Mr. Obama’s toughness and preparation. “I think I can be value added, but this guy has it. This guy has it.”

Mr. Biden was not clear about the “testing” Mr. Kennedy underwent upon taking office. His biggest early debacle - the Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961 - was conceived by the CIA under the Eisenhower administration, not by some foreign power. His biggest test, the Cuban missile crisis, came in October 1962.






mr. mccain will need NO ONE to rise to his defense...he has been tested...he is already "commander in chief" material...and that is the bottom line for independents...

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