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Westlaw
« on: September 21, 2008, 11:20:03 PM »
Does anyone have the skinny on what Westlaw actually charges us new practitioners who plan to hang our own shingle?

My advance research prof. said it can be up to 6.00 per minute, and another prof. said solo practitioners would only need about 1500.00 month worth of databases.

Anyone have any clue?

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 11:04:51 PM »
Why don't you ask West?

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2008, 12:14:04 AM »
You're going to hang your own shingle right after passing the bar?

Just curious as what made you choose to do this.  I don't plan on doing that but I hope to one day way in the future.

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2008, 12:40:12 AM »
According to our westlaw training a couple weeks ago

Westtllaw Priiciing
$17 per minute or portion of a minute for All
Federal Cases (ALLFEDS), All State Cases
(ALLSTATES), or All Federal & State Cases
(ALLCASES), All Federal Circuit Courts (CTA)
or All Federal District Courts (DCT) or other
“ALL” databases (e.g., Minn. Fed & State cases
MN-CS-ALL)
 $8.00 per minute or portion of a minute for
other databases
Or

 $170 per transaction (each search and each
edited search) in ALLCASES or TP-ALL (all
text and periodicals)
 $105 per transaction for any other ALL
database (see examples above)
 $65 per transaction for other databases
Westtllaw Priiciing
$10.00 for each “Find a document” retrieval (also
applies to using Previous Section, Next Section,
and ResultsPlus links, and other links to retrieve
documents)
The “Transaction” charge includes reading the documents
found by your search but does not include following links
out of those documents to other documents.)
LexiisNexiis Priiciing
$17 per minute or portion of a minute for any
database

$225 per transaction (search and each edited
search) for All Federal Cases, All State Cases, or
All Federal & State Cases
$125 per transaction for other databases
combining federal and state cases (e.g., Minn.
Fed & State cases)
$65 per transaction for all other databases
$10.00 for each “Get a document” retrieval (also
applies to following links to documents)
(The “Transaction”charge includes reading the documents
retrieved by your search but does not include following
links out of those documents to other documents.)

Priinttiing/Emaiilliing/Downlloadiing
 $2.40 per page or $10 per document (your
choice). No charge to print Shepard’’s/KeyCite
Reports!

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2008, 01:11:01 AM »
Excuse me because I'm a 1L, but this seems outrageously expensive.  Clearly I don't know about Westlaw research now, but it seems like it would be impossible to maintain a practice using West instead of print research.  Can someone who knows about it clue me in on this?
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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2008, 02:11:48 AM »
And, for the sake of comparison, the complete current Southern Reporter series is $13,330, with free shipping.

Make of that what you will.
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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2008, 10:57:06 AM »
Can't wait until someone makes a wiki.

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2008, 11:13:40 AM »
Excuse me because I'm a 1L, but this seems outrageously expensive.  Clearly I don't know about Westlaw research now, but it seems like it would be impossible to maintain a practice using West instead of print research.  Can someone who knows about it clue me in on this?

It is extremely expensive, and a number of law students get themselves in trouble every year doing their summers by running up a huge bill on some mundane research project. Use your student account so the firm does not see how bad at research you are. :) If your school offers a class on book based research, I would take it. I took one last summer and now I’m actually faster in the library then I am online. Most firms will have a law library too.

Most large law firms will have account with Lexis or Westlaw (these may be limited accounts though, like government employers usually have). They will pay a fee for a base number of hours and pay more for anything above that. This is really important for first and second year associates because much of what you do can’t be billed to the client (they don’t want to pay for your training). So if it takes you five hours of research you may only be able to get 2 from the client, the firm will have to eat the rest of your research time. Thus you can improve how you look to your superiors by knowing how to efficiently use both book and online resources thus limiting the unbillable expense of your research.
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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2008, 02:36:26 PM »
Excuse me because I'm a 1L, but this seems outrageously expensive.  Clearly I don't know about Westlaw research now, but it seems like it would be impossible to maintain a practice using West instead of print research.  Can someone who knows about it clue me in on this?

They charge the clients.

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Re: Westlaw
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2008, 03:54:39 PM »
You need to contact them and ask.  They are extremely expensive and cost prohibitive for beginning attorneys.  However, Lexis has special rates for new lawyers, so I'm sure Westlaw does to so they can stay competitive.  Call them and tell them your situation and they should find the best plan for you.