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Re: Your job can be outsourced.
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 11:18:45 PM »
Only for people willing to shell out 100K without doing any of their own research.  These are the kind of people that suck at life regardless of their career choices and can't stay out of their own way in most circumstances.



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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 08:15:31 AM »
Only for people willing to shell out 100K without doing any of their own research.  These are the kind of people that suck at life regardless of their career choices and can't stay out of their own way in most circumstances.



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Re: Your job can be outsourced.
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 09:48:41 PM »
Thanks for passing those articles on. Information like that should definitely be considered.

It's all in what you want really. If my wife will let me I would like to move the family to the middle of nowhere in Alaska. I'd be the only attorney within many, many, many miles and I'd take every sort of case and payment.

"No money you say? Well thats a nice snow-mobile you got there..."

They can't outsource those types of jobs. And I'm not looking to get rich. I just want to provide for my family and live in that beautiful country up north.

The kinds of things that will work for outsourcing legal advice are the same things that work with these legal help sites, such as wills, standard docs, etc. But when your in an accident and you need help, you'll still have to call <insert popular name here>, lol.

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 10:43:55 PM »
Thanks for passing those articles on. Information like that should definitely be considered.

It's all in what you want really. If my wife will let me I would like to move the family to the middle of nowhere in Alaska. I'd be the only attorney within many, many, many miles and I'd take every sort of case and payment.

"No money you say? Well thats a nice snow-mobile you got there..."

They can't outsource those types of jobs. And I'm not looking to get rich. I just want to provide for my family and live in that beautiful country up north.

The kinds of things that will work for outsourcing legal advice are the same things that work with these legal help sites, such as wills, standard docs, etc. But when your in an accident and you need help, you'll still have to call <insert popular name here>, lol.


Actually, they are starting to outsource the discovery: doc review to cut costs. That is a major part of litigation that should go to US attorneys. Or you would think. You would think that there would be privacy concerns but the ABA is gung ho because it will make more money for the big firms. Who knows how much the big firms paid in lobbying dollars.

I have been thinking about traveling to Alaska also. beautiful scenery..lol. That palin girl really put Alaska on the map.

Re: Your job can be outsourced.
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 12:28:40 PM »
Hey, I didn't think of that! Leave it to one of the most conservative posters on the board to see the bright side of this. ;)

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 02:21:14 PM »
For those thinking about law school, you need to be informed about an upcoming trend that has received approval from the ABA.

Drum roll please...... Outsourcing to India:

Now some law jobs will disappear just like manufacturing.



"ABA Gives Thumbs Up to Legal Outsourcing"
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202424085117



Is becoming a lawyer worth it?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080213212028AACplr4

This is one way to look at it.

Another way to look at is you can now open up your own practice, have some schmuck in India do all the work, pay him 10 cents on the dollar, and make six-figures while laying on the beach all day.

Lol, hmm I didnt think of that...

It is a little sad to see the direction the profession is heading. The people at the top are driving and the people at the bottom are too scared to speak up.

Re: Your job can be outsourced.
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2008, 08:54:15 PM »
Of course, if people prefer to see themselves as victims of broader trends, instead of taking advantage of the many opportuntities they create, that's their choice.  I believe there's an entire political party in this country built around that mentality.

Unfortunately, the Libertarian party hasn't a chance in this year's election, although I think they can probably make gains at the local level.  Judging by the number of Ron Paul stickers I still see on bumpers, the Libertarians seem to have a good amount of enthusiastic supporters.

I don't think it's as simple as victim/opportunity.  Auto workers in Michigan, for example, may be older and have financial obligations that impede their ability to adapt.  How easy is it for an Auto worker to move or retrain, when he or she is 50 years old, has a kid or two in college, a mortgage, and other expenses? 

So you tell them to pack up and move where there are jobs.  Ok, but what about their house?  It's not easy to get rid of a house when nobody is buying and banks aren't lending.  Paying for retraining?  Retrain for what?  When much scientific and engineering work is outsourced, what is left?  And where's the $ for tuition going to come from when you've already got a family to support?

A young person like me can easily adapt to the global economy.  No jobs in my state, no problem!  I pack up my car and move.  I've got no kids, no mortgage, and no health issues.  I can go where I please, work where I wish, and pretty much take any opportunity anywhere.  I can easily reap the benefits of a global economy, but not everyone can.

Americans have to realize that there is collective as well as individual responsibility.  The whole "ME ME ME" culture of narcissistic glorification of the individual over all else has degraded the sense of collective responsibility, but that is a topic for another thread.

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Re: Your job can be outsourced.
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2008, 03:28:03 PM »
For those thinking about law school, you need to be informed about an upcoming trend that has received approval from the ABA.

Drum roll please...... Outsourcing to India:

Now some law jobs will disappear just like manufacturing.



"ABA Gives Thumbs Up to Legal Outsourcing"
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202424085117



Is becoming a lawyer worth it?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080213212028AACplr4

This is one way to look at it.

Another way to look at is you can now open up your own practice, have some schmuck in India do all the work, pay him 10 cents on the dollar, and make six-figures while laying on the beach all day.

Lol, hmm I didnt think of that...

It is a little sad to see the direction the profession is heading. The people at the top are driving and the people at the bottom are too scared to speak up.

Yeah, it really sucks that the mindless, dronish drudgery of legal practice might be outsourced to other nations, with only the thoughtful, creative stuff left here.  It's every american lawyer's dream to spend their lives doing document review. 

Never mind that reducing legal costs through outsourcing will be good for the overall economy, free up american attorneys for more interesting work, and make it easier for individual lawyers to start their own practices.  (I was actually serious in my earlier post, thought I may have exaggerated a little -- you'd still have to work, just not as much.)

I encourage all people intimidated by globalization and "outsourcing" to read Friedman's "The World is Flat" to get a better sense of the real effects and impacts of global trade.  Overall, it's clearly a benefit to our country, especially to anyone with any initiative.

Of course, if people prefer to see themselves as victims of broader trends, instead of taking advantage of the many opportuntities they create, that's their choice.  I believe there's an entire political party in this country built around that mentality.

I don't have a problem with globalization. I have bought plenty of things made in china...lol. What I have a problem with is the dumbing down of requirements for the practice of law overseas. Meanwhile they require us to get up to our eyeballs in debt for an ABA approved school and the barzam.