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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 12:03:00 AM »
let's bring the genocidal murderer dr. ayman al zawahiri to justice or kill him if he refuses to come without a fight...

bin laden is probably already dead.

CIA carried out Waziristan strike’...this was one page header...more like special ops did this...not c.i.a.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 04:47:25 PM »
Waziristan link seen in attack on Marriott: Blast caused by RDX and TNT: Malik




By Syed Irfan Raza

 ISLAMABAD, Sept 21: Prime Minister’s Adviser on Interior Affairs Rehman Malik has said that Saturday’s blast in Islamabad that claimed 53 lives had links with Waziristan.

A video tape, recorded by a security TV camera of the Marriott Hotel, which was shown at a press conference on Sunday, raised questions about security arrangements made to avert a terrorist attack in the capital’s high security areas.

“It is premature to blame any particular group or individual for the blast but all roads lead to Waziristan,” the adviser said.

The video clip showed a six-wheeler dumper truck hitting a steel barrier at the hotel’s main entrance. The attacker, who could not be seen in the film, opened fire on security guards, forcing them to retreat, and then blew himself up causing a small blast which set the truck on fire.

A number of courageous security guards reappear, one of them with a fire extinguisher who tries to extinguish the blaze but fails. He tries repeatedly to douse flames as traffic is seen on the road. There is no sign of movement in the truck and the footage does not show the massive blast which wreaked the havoc.

Questions have been raised as to how such a huge quantity of highly explosive material (RDX and TNT) could be brought into the capital and then taken to the high security area. And there were only five or six private guards at the hotel gate and no arrangement to put out fire.

“It was the first incident in the capital in which terrorists used RDX and TNT explosives. In all previous blasts the terrorists had used potassium. Aluminium powder used in the explosion caused the fire inside the hotel,” Mr Malik said.

Analysts said the attack could have been averted had the fire on the truck been extinguished before it reached the explosives.

The fire in the hotel, a favourite spot for foreigners and the local elite -- and a previous target of militants -- smouldered till about noon on Sunday.

Mr Malik said the local administration allowed trucks carrying construction material to enter the city after sunset.

Rescue teams searched the charred building room by room in high temperature with some parts of the hotel still smouldering. Officials said the main building could collapse.

The adviser said two Americans and one Vietnamese national were among the dead. Officials said at least 21 foreigners, including Britons, Germans, Americans and Arabs, were among the injured.

 Mr Malik said the bomb contained an estimated 600kgs of military-grade explosives as well as artillery and mortar shells. It left a crater 60 feet wide and 24 feet deep.

The adviser called upon the national media not to glorify militants. “They are ferocious people who are killing innocent people, but the anchors, hosts and other media personnel do not condemn them.”

He said a team headed by the director general of the Federal Investigation Agency was carrying out an inquiry.

Replying to a question, Mr Malik vowed that one day the assassin of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto would be presented before the public.

He praised the army and law-enforcement agencies for foiling the designs of over 3,000 militants who had attacked Bajaur. “We launched operations in Hangu and Khyber to restore peace,” he said.

The government announced a reward of Rs10 million for information about Saturday’s suicide bomber. Anyone with information may contact the FIA DG on telephone numbers 111-345-786 or 0302-5115122 or the Islamabad police chief on 051-9261428 or 0300-8507520.

The adviser said the name of the informer would be kept secret and he would be provided full security.

Mr Malik said the government had decided to implement a new security plan in Islamabad to prevent such attacks.

He said closed-circuit cameras would be installed along all main roads and at important points in the capital. They will be linked to a central control room. The task has been given to the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra).

The adviser said the plan approved by President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani would be implemented in a few days.

“All trucks, buses and taxis coming into the federal capital will be monitored thoroughly and police patrolling will be increased.”

Meanwhile, interior ministry sources said the government had decided to intensify operations against militants in tribal areas.

The joint investigation team submitted a report after bomb disposal squads of army and police had examined the site.

According to sources, officials of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency and Marines who were staying in the hotel could have been the target of the attack.

Shortly after the blast, well-equipped personnel of US Marines took positions at the place to remove their colleagues, the sources added.

“It is unfair to target thousands of people in a hotel to kill two Americans,” Mr Malik said.

No group has claimed responsibility for the blast.

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008, 08:17:03 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 02:44:59 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2008, 10:37:25 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 02:17:28 AM »
the international news

Saturday, November 08, 2008

After a period of relative quiet, the suicide bombers have struck again. This time, the target was another 'jirga' gathering in Bajaur, where tribal elders, after a meeting with the administration, were staging a meeting to discuss forming a 'lashkar' against militants. At least 20 people are reported to have died in an attack that the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) have claimed responsibility for. The tactics, it is clear, are unchanged. The purpose is to dissuade tribesmen from building a front against the militants. We have seen similar, dastardly attacks before – in Bajaur and in other tribal areas.

Against the bloody background of this new attack, the news that a close aide of TTP leader Baitullah Mehsud has been freed in exchange for 10 security personnel is disquieting. It seems that even now, authorities are willing to strike deals with proven killers. Whereas one can understand the desire to rescue trapped military men, the fact is that we are dealing with a ruthless force. To combat them, the methods will need to be just as ruthless and just as unflinching. We have seen over the past years that such attempts at dialogue and deal-making with militants simply do not work. The resolve to go in against them with full force needs to be steadfast and backed by complete commitment at every level.

What is encouraging is the fact that tribal people have, despite the suicide attacks staged to dissuade them, carried on with their determined bid to drive militants out of their areas. In this they are said to be backed almost everywhere by local people. In this context, the efforts of the militants appear increasingly desperate. They have indeed already been forced out of some areas of Dir and of the tribal agencies. What also seems evident is that the formation of such anti-militant 'lashkars' will continue. Each new attack on tribesmen, rather than dissuading them, acts to fuel new anger against the elements behind the bombings and a new determination to crush them. In recent days, several edicts against suicide attacks by clerical leaders help to strengthen the resolve. What authorities must do is ensure that tribesmen have full support in their effort to eradicate militants. At the same time, there must also now be an attempt to strike at the core of organizations such as the TTP. The operation staged in Bajaur and elsewhere has already weakened them, paving the way for such a new offensive. It is hard to believe men like Baitullah Mehsud or his closest aides still cannot be tracked down. This is all the more true given that our agencies have been provided state-of-the-art equipment by the US and other allies. The effort to hunt down top militants needs to be stepped up as a move towards disbanding them and hampering their ability to kill innocent people, as they did most recently at the tribal meeting in Bajaur.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 09:30:54 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 02:28:02 AM »
'US raid' kills five in Pakistan 
 
Damage to civilian life and property has generated anti-American feelings in Pakistan
A missile fired by a suspected US drone has killed at least five people in north-western Pakistan, security officials say.

The missile destroyed a house in the Bannu district, they said.

The dead include two foreigners - a term Pakistani officials use to describe al-Qaeda militants.

In recent weeks, more than 100 people - among them suspected militants and many civilians - have been killed in the tribal areas in attacks by US missiles.

The issue has become extremely sensitive in Pakistan where anti-American sentiment is rising.

Pakistan's government says unilateral American operations undermine its own counter-insurgency strategy.

A local security official told the AFP news agency that Wednesday morning's attack "destroyed the house of a tribesman".

Bannu is near the Afghan border on the edge of the North Waziristan tribal region, a centre of support for pro-Taleban militants.

Correspondents say Pakistan's tribal regions on the Afghan border have usually borne the brunt of suspected US missile attacks, so the strike in Bannu was unusual.

Last Friday, missiles fired by a suspected US drone killed at least eight militants in North Waziristan which is known to be a hub of al-Qaeda and Taleban militants.

The latest attacks have come days after Pakistan's President Asif Zardari's appeal to US President-elect Barack Obama to review the strategy of attacking targets in Pakistan's tribal areas.

"It's undermining my sovereignty and it's not helping win the... hearts and minds of people," Mr Zardari told CBS News.

The US has stepped up missile attacks from drones in the region in recent weeks.

There have been nearly 20 strikes in the past three months and, while US officials say al-Qaeda leaders are being successfully targeted, local tribesmen say scores of civilians have been killed.

Most of the missile strikes have taken place in the Waziristan region, where no Pakistani military operation is in progress.
 
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 10:58:13 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2008, 01:29:50 AM »
Is ruthless tribal warlord in Pakistan intervening to save a Canadian hostage?
   SAEED SHAH

From Thursday's Globe 

November 19, 2008 at 9:02 PM EST

ISLAMABAD — In the murky world of justice in remote Pakistan, one thing is clear: The fate of a Canadian held captive there rests in the hands of warlord Gul Bahadur.

A leader of Pakistan's Taliban, he runs much of North Waziristan, the area where Beverly Giesbrecht, 55, disappeared last week and where she is thought to still be held captive.

Early reports in the Pakistani media said Mr. Bahadur's fighters were holding Ms. Giesbrecht, who took the name Khadija Abdul Qahaar upon converting to Islam after Sept. 11, 2001. More recent information suggests Mr. Bahadur has intervened on her behalf, putting pressure on the group that holds Ms. Giesbrecht, according to a local security official and tribesmen from the area.

According to their accounts, Mr. Bahadur has told her kidnappers that, as a Muslim and a woman, she should be let go. Kidnapping is common in that area but abducting women is frowned upon.

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 North Waziristan is part of Pakistan's wild tribal region, which is a hotbed of Taliban and al-Qaeda militants. Mr. Bahadur is a committed insurgent who sends his fighters across the border to battle with U.S., Canadian and other coalition troops in Afghanistan. He is nonetheless considered a moderate among Pakistan's Taliban as he has not turned his fighters against the Pakistani state.

According to officials and locals, Ms. Giesbrecht is being held by the Amin Shah group, which identities itself as a Taliban group in North Waziristan but is widely considered to be a criminal gang that has undertaken acts in the name of religion to garner support, a practice now common.

“Amin Shah group say they are now checking whether she really is a Muslim,” a local security official said. “They are asking her questions about Islam. If they are satisfied that she is a Muslim, and that she is not a spy, I think they will set her free soon. Gul Bahadur is pressing to free her.”

There are now secret negotiations under way for her release between Pakistani authorities and the Amin Shah group, who come from the Maalikhel clan, a sub-tribe of the Wazirs, according to Zakir Khan, a local in Mir Ali, a town in North Waziristan. The talks are being brokered by a well-known tribal leader known as Malik Khalid.

The Amin Shah group is said to be after a ransom as high as 10 million rupees, or $160,0000, so there is some doubt they will let her go even if she convinces them she is a Muslim. There's speculation the gang is using this issue to buy time with Mr. Bahadur and the real Taliban.

Ms. Giesbrecht, who lived in West Vancouver, is a former magazine publisher and past owner of the monthly Vancouver Business Report.

She now runs a website called Jihad Unspun, which reports on global anti-terrorism efforts from a Muslim perspective. She is thought to have been investigating U.S. missile attacks in the tribal area, an emotive issue for Pakistanis, possibly for a documentary. Locals contend that many innocent civilians have died as a result of the U.S. missiles, which are often fired from unmanned “drone” aircraft.

She was carrying a still camera and a video camera, according to people with whom she met before being abducted. She made two trips to Bannu, a town on the edge of North Waziristan that is considered a highly risky place for Westerners and even Pakistanis not from that area. Kidnapping, robbery and carjackings in northwestern Pakistan are reaching endemic proportions, as law and order has broken down as a result of an Islamist insurgency that has made the police and paramilitary fearful to patrol in many places.

Criminal gangs, under the guise of Taliban, are thriving, lurking on the outskirts of cities in the northwest, including the provincial capital, Peshawar. The Taliban movement, which first rose in Afghanistan and has now taken over much of Pakistan's tribal area, is supposed to be based on a promise of strict law and order and a crackdown on criminality.

“A large number of the supporters of the Taliban are criminal elements,” said Mehmood Shah, a former top security official for the tribal area, now an analyst based in Peshawar. “Very few people are pious and what you could call ‘principled.'”

On her first visit to Bannu, which lies around 200 kilometres south of Peshawar, Ms. Giesbrecht made a trip to Lakki Marwat, an area farther south, to talk to people who had apparently fled Waziristan to escape U.S. missile attacks, after which she returned to Peshawar, according to security officials.

She returned to Bannu on Nov. 9 and stayed the night at the city's down-market Bagh Sakoon hotel. Leaving the next day, she travelled by taxi eastward into North Waziristan, along with a translator and a local community figure. It is thought that she was trying to go to the spot of a recent U.S. missile strike, at a village called Kam Sam near the Afghan border, close to the town of Razmak, in which 12 people reportedly died.

It was on the way back to Bannu from Kam Sam, on the afternoon of Nov. 10, that she was snatched. Her taxi was pursued by a pick-up truck carrying masked men, which forced the car to stop. The taxi driver was let go but Ms. Giesbrecht and the other two men were taken into custody, according to accounts given by locals, who believe that she is now being held near Razmak.

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