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meggo

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Re: Being a URM *PLEASE READ*
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 08:28:45 PM »
I don't have time to find the one about URM's at the moment, but I flipped through and found the one about international students which came from Andy Cornblatt at Georgetown

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 09:48:19 AM »
I don't have time to find the one about URM's at the moment, but I flipped through and found the one about international students which came from Andy Cornblatt at Georgetown

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 07:55:19 PM »
when you find the time to look for it, please let me know...thanks

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 08:05:56 PM »
ah okay, found it. It's from Richard Montauk, as I said in my original post, page 163 and he says "...As a rough rule of thumb,African-Americans average 10 points below [a school's median], Hispanics 5 points below, and American-Indians 3 - 5 points below"

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 08:09:03 PM »
ah okay, found it. It's from Richard Montauk, as I said in my original post, page 163 and he says "...As a rough rule of thumb,African-Americans average 10 points below [a school's median], Hispanics 5 points below, and American-Indians 3 - 5 points below"

Wow, I'm surprised the boost for AI's is that low.

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 08:25:11 PM »
PR's get a bigger boost than most hispanics.  Make a big deal about it in your PS, and pretend you were really poor/disadvantaged/shat on by whitey.  Adcoms eat this sh*t up.

A quick search on the internet under that subject line (not recommended) and it appears that this genre is very popular in German pornography. That being said I would not mention it in your PS or DS. I mean you could put “fan of German language scat films” on your resume under the “Activities” section. However, I don’t think this is the kind of diversity that would really add to a schools’ 1L class. Who knows though, I’m not an adcom thus I could be wrong.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 11:08:06 PM »
ah okay, found it. It's from Richard Montauk, as I said in my original post, page 163 and he says "...As a rough rule of thumb,African-Americans average 10 points below [a school's median], Hispanics 5 points below, and American-Indians 3 - 5 points below"

Wow, I'm surprised the boost for AI's is that low.

I suspect because that's an average, in which it's been factored the number of applicants who check the box due to some rumors of a Cherokee princess (TM) gr-gr-grandmother.  It's a lot easier to avoid real scrutiny when Indian box-checking than for AA or Latino/a, mainly because 1) there are so few of us who apply who might call an IiCO (Indian in Card Only) on it, and 2) Indianess is in fact a political, not racial/ethnic, identity, and thus there is no universal designation of what it means to actually "be" an Indian.  So adcomms have to really scrutinize an applicant's PS, DS and activities/work history to determine if there's cultural/tribal affiliation.  Since the colleges have to report all box-checking, the ones who get in on their numbers and not their diversity, i.e., not specifically culturally affiliated, actually dilute the "bump" that the truly culturally/tribally affiliated actually get.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 11:28:16 PM »
just curious, what do you all think of the fact that URMs have this type of advantage?
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 11:46:20 PM »
ah okay, found it. It's from Richard Montauk, as I said in my original post, page 163 and he says "...As a rough rule of thumb,African-Americans average 10 points below [a school's median], Hispanics 5 points below, and American-Indians 3 - 5 points below"

I've got his 2001 edition and don't see that written on page 163 or anywhere else. What edition do you have?

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 12:26:27 AM »
The most recent edition, the fourth edition. Was released a couple days ago I believe. You don't seem to believe me...not sure why I would lie about something like this??

That's interesting frybread. I come from a fairly heavily populated (per capita) region of First Nations people, and in my province at least (and I would say in Canada generally) there aren't very many people I can think of who could get away with 'faking' their First Nations past. Maybe it's more common than I realize but I've never really known anyone who wasn't First Nations to carry a card. But I imagine that's because our society is, unfortunately, heavily segregated