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Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?

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Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« on: August 01, 2008, 11:17:25 AM »
Hypo here- let's suppose I am 100% positive that I want to practice in Nashville... not necessarily the case, but let's say it is.  With my numbers (which are listed below) would I be better off going to Vandy and getting (likely) really good scholarships or would I be better off going to a slightly more prestigious school like Duke and taking less scholarships?

I hope to practice corporate law (either tax or mergers/acquisitions)... what would be my best bet in this situation?  Keep in mind, I want to stay in Nashville.

Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 12:06:57 PM »
If you want to be in Nashville, go to Vandy.  End of story.

But you will have time to consider options once you actually apply and get accepted/scholarships :)  Don't jump the gun yet

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Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 12:22:16 PM »
Vandy, but I wouldn't count on getting scholarships out of Duke with your numbers unless you are a URM. And while Vandy might throw in something to sweeten the pot, I certainly wouldn't count on it. As the poster above said, apply, see if you get in, see what you are offered and then weigh your options. Either school will get you a job in Nashville without much trouble, so at least IMO loans should be a bigger concern. If there's any chance you will change your mind about working in Nashville, go to Duke.

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Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 12:37:51 PM »
I am basing my assumptions on LSN numbers... people with my stats and non-URMS are getting between 75k-90k at Vandy and 35k-50k from Duke.  Assumptions are all I have to go by at this point, although I will probably be eligible for quite a bit of need-based merit.

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Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 02:04:11 PM »
I am basing my assumptions on LSN numbers... people with my stats and non-URMS are getting between 75k-90k at Vandy and 35k-50k from Duke.  Assumptions are all I have to go by at this point, although I will probably be eligible for quite a bit of need-based merit.

Well then either school would be a good deal. Scratch comment above re: scholarships, but the rest of my advice holds. If you think you might change your mind about Nashville (what makes you want to be there as opposed to any other Southern city anyway?), you should strongly consider Duke.

Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 05:18:11 PM »
Hypo here- let's suppose I am 100% positive that I want to practice in Nashville... not necessarily the case, but let's say it is.  With my numbers (which are listed below) would I be better off going to Vandy and getting (likely) really good scholarships or would I be better off going to a slightly more prestigious school like Duke and taking less scholarships?

I hope to practice corporate law (either tax or mergers/acquisitions)... what would be my best bet in this situation?  Keep in mind, I want to stay in Nashville.

My comments (I'll be a 2L at VULS):

1.  I'm currently dogsitting in Manhattan and researching firms for OCI, and I decided to perv through the recruitment handbook and put the info into a spreadsheet to see what sort of numbers we're looking at.  Of the 25 2Ls summering with firms in Nashville this summer, 14 are at firms in the NLJ 250.  Looking at their bios, most of the 2Ls in various cities/SAs/internships (27, out of 40 total) are either Vandy undergrads (and are probably looking to stay in Nashville) or are from TN, AR, KY or GA, so I'm assuming most of them are in town by choice, and not as a fallback because they didn't land an SA somewhere else.  Some of Nashville's biggest firms-- Baker Donelson, Bass, Berry & Sims, Waller Lansden, and Miller Martin-- all have between 2 and 4 Vandy SAs this summer.  I don't know how you'd compare this info to other schools, but I'm tempted to say this would put us solidly in the lead for getting students into the best firms in town.  Look at those firms in particular and see if you can compare number of associates from different schools to confirm this.

2. Apply early to get the best chance of getting $$$.  The school has seen a marked increase in apps from cross the country in each of the last few years, and my guess is that, in their attempts to create the most geographically diverse group, they might sit on your app to compare it with apps from other regions.  That said, there's close to 20 Double-Dores in my class, so you'll stand a good chance in getting accepted.  But number/$$$ comparisons this year aren't a great indicator of where they'll be targeting $$$ next year.... when I look at my own numbers from two cycles ago, I probably would've been WLed this cycle instead of outright admitted (no $).  And if I had applied a year earlier I would've stood a good chance at getting $.  Apply early, make sure to mention your desire to practice in Nashville, and they could toss money your way to keep you in town. G'luck.

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Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 01:34:25 PM »
Should I consider writing an addendum explaining my intentions of staying in the Nashville area, or is that something admissions would even take into consideration?

Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 02:56:05 PM »

1.  What's a Double-Dore?  Someone who went to Vandy as an undergrad?


Whoops. I was looking at their avatar instead of the signature... and apparently not all that closely.  Yeah, the UG is somewhat of a feeder for the Law School... just about 10% of my class went there for college.

Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 03:02:32 PM »
YP? What makes you think Vandy YPs? Nothing on LSN gives any indication of this. Everybody who was WLed with LSATs of 169+ had relatively bad GPAs (two 170+ WLs were 3.57/3.63 and hardly seem to indicate a pattern). Everybody with even a decent GPA was accepted with respectable or lots of money.

I wouldn't bother with an extra addendum. Just put together a good application that shows you care.

Also, re: YP, his LSAT is not going to be above the 75th compared to the new 1Ls. His LSAT will also likely be the new median. Schools that YP don't YP median candidates. They're the school's target/reaches with $$$.

Other comments: Rusky doesn't seem to know anything. As observationalist pointed out, the people working in Nashville have ties to the area. Unless she just simply lacks clarity, either school does not get you a job there easily.

If, on the other hand, you thought you might want to work more nationally, then a T14 would probably be a better bet.  Vandy can get you national biglaw if you're near top of the class, but that's tough to achieve at a place like Vandy, where everyone's pretty bright and studious.  The T14 will give you national options even if you're average.

All indicators point to median (presumably what you mean by average) kids going nationally just fine. They have to. There aren't many jobs in the region.

I wish people would cut this T14 nonsense out.



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Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 03:27:01 PM »
TAG b/c though this is interesting as it stands, it could get even more interesting...