Do you want to want to put to test that Under-Represented Minorities can't compete? The result will shock you! It's comments like these that promote the racist idea that all URMs can't compete. I dare you! By the way, I'm black.
Quote from: Pattycake on August 13, 2008, 01:51:06 AMDo you want to want to put to test that Under-Represented Minorities can't compete? The result will shock you! It's comments like these that promote the racist idea that all URMs can't compete. I dare you! By the way, I'm black. I believe they can compete. Which is why I oppose applying different standards to them.
(including white women, its primary beneficiaries)
Well he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog... Well, replace the word "kinda" with "repeatedly" and the word "dog" with "son."
Quote from: LawDog3 on February 02, 2009, 01:49:01 AM(including white women, its primary beneficiaries)All right, this has been troubling me for a while now. What's the source for this? The only report I've been able to find on this is a DoL statement from 1995. Is there anything to suggest that this is still true?
That's cool how you referenced a case.
I'm so far from the end of my tether right now that I reckon I could knit myself some socks with the slack.
Quote from: Lindbergh on September 14, 2008, 11:07:45 PMQuote from: Pattycake on August 13, 2008, 01:51:06 AMDo you want to want to put to test that Under-Represented Minorities can't compete? The result will shock you! It's comments like these that promote the racist idea that all URMs can't compete. I dare you! By the way, I'm black. I believe they can compete. Which is why I oppose applying different standards to them. While I applaud you on your confidence in minorities, AA is not a "crutch"; it is an acknowledgement for PAST injustices that put certain groups (including white women, its primary beneficiaries) behind socioeconomically in American society. Those PAST injustices have led to intergenrational conditions that hinder the progress of today's "competent minorities" (as you say). White (male) America must pay not only for the slavery that benefitted them greatly, but, for the Jim Crow Laws that existed until the 1960's and hindered the great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents of the URM's you say deserve no benefits. If your grandfather had a set of laws designed to specifically deny him an education, a job, heck, even free mobility and basic human rights, you would want justice, too. Why must I pay for a crime I did not commit? Since URMs (especially blacks) are more likely to commit a crime using a gun, should you have to pay for that if you are black?
Quote from: LawDog3 on February 02, 2009, 01:49:01 AMQuote from: Lindbergh on September 14, 2008, 11:07:45 PMQuote from: Pattycake on August 13, 2008, 01:51:06 AMDo you want to want to put to test that Under-Represented Minorities can't compete? The result will shock you! It's comments like these that promote the racist idea that all URMs can't compete. I dare you! By the way, I'm black. I believe they can compete. Which is why I oppose applying different standards to them. While I applaud you on your confidence in minorities, AA is not a "crutch"; it is an acknowledgement for PAST injustices that put certain groups (including white women, its primary beneficiaries) behind socioeconomically in American society. Those PAST injustices have led to intergenrational conditions that hinder the progress of today's "competent minorities" (as you say). White (male) America must pay not only for the slavery that benefitted them greatly, but, for the Jim Crow Laws that existed until the 1960's and hindered the great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents of the URM's you say deserve no benefits. If your grandfather had a set of laws designed to specifically deny him an education, a job, heck, even free mobility and basic human rights, you would want justice, too. Why must I pay for a crime I did not commit? Since URMs (especially blacks) are more likely to commit a crime using a gun, should you have to pay for that if you are black?
Quote from: Lindbergh on September 14, 2008, 11:07:45 PMQuote from: Pattycake on August 13, 2008, 01:51:06 AMDo you want to want to put to test that Under-Represented Minorities can't compete? The result will shock you! It's comments like these that promote the racist idea that all URMs can't compete. I dare you! By the way, I'm black. I believe they can compete. Which is why I oppose applying different standards to them. While I applaud you on your confidence in minorities, AA is not a "crutch"; it is an acknowledgement for PAST injustices that put certain groups (including white women, its primary beneficiaries) behind socioeconomically in American society. Those PAST injustices have led to intergenrational conditions that hinder the progress of today's "competent minorities" (as you say). White (male) America must pay not only for the slavery that benefitted them greatly, but, for the Jim Crow Laws that existed until the 1960's and hindered the great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents of the URM's you say deserve no benefits. If your grandfather had a set of laws designed to specifically deny him an education, a job, heck, even free mobility and basic human rights, you would want justice, too.
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