Sorry frybread, you are wrong. If you're in lawschool, count the minority students of each race. An Asian friend of mine did where he attended and convinced me of the quota in 2007. Sad that I won't detail more because I'm scared of repercussions, but it's true. If you promise not to quote me, I'll tell you everything and delete it 5 minutes later.
I'm in a lynch mob? I had no idea. This is really worrying; I really don't have time for another extra-curricular activity.
Freak is the best, Freak is the best! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!I don't like calling you Freak, I'd rather call you Normal Nice Guy.
sym·pa·thy –noun1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another.2. the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions.3. the fact or power of sharing the feelings of another, esp. in sorrow or trouble; fellow feeling, compassion, or commiseration.I would say the law has been sympathetic since the dawn of man. So, when a court rules in favor of plaintiff or defendant, they are not in "harmony of or agreement in feeling?"
You seem to see AA as some sort of punitive damages. Let me ask you a question: Do you consider paying taxes to fix roads that you don't drive on fair or punitive in nature. You don't. Why not? You don't consider them a punishment because better roads are better for society. Better roads can prevent accidents and damage to your car or save your life. It is without a doubt that residents of poor neighborhoods commit more crime and damage to themselves and others. Lets liken them to a bad road. What can we do to fix this road? AA is a mechanism to try to fix this damaged road. It offers those with less opportunity a chance of success and gives an opportunity to succeed. Its up to them to decide what to do with the opportunity. I understand that you can argue a loss of job opportunity or scholarship or place in school. But I would argue that you have had an enormous amount of opportunities and mechanisms to allow for your success.
Quote from: dsetterl on August 21, 2008, 01:16:55 PMsym·pa·thy –noun1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another.2. the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions.3. the fact or power of sharing the feelings of another, esp. in sorrow or trouble; fellow feeling, compassion, or commiseration.I would say the law has been sympathetic since the dawn of man. So, when a court rules in favor of plaintiff or defendant, they are not in "harmony of or agreement in feeling?" "Harmony or agreement in feeling"? Really? Be prepared to have your idealism take a hit.QuoteYou seem to see AA as some sort of punitive damages. Let me ask you a question: Do you consider paying taxes to fix roads that you don't drive on fair or punitive in nature. You don't. Why not? You don't consider them a punishment because better roads are better for society. Better roads can prevent accidents and damage to your car or save your life. It is without a doubt that residents of poor neighborhoods commit more crime and damage to themselves and others. Lets liken them to a bad road. What can we do to fix this road? AA is a mechanism to try to fix this damaged road. It offers those with less opportunity a chance of success and gives an opportunity to succeed. Its up to them to decide what to do with the opportunity. I understand that you can argue a loss of job opportunity or scholarship or place in school. But I would argue that you have had an enormous amount of opportunities and mechanisms to allow for your success. Your analogy is flawed. Fixing the roads would be more analogous to fixing public education in underprivileged neighborhoods. On average, URM's score 10pts lower on the LSAT (141 v 151). AA will be hard pressed to solve that problem by itself. AA is more akin to buying new tires for some cars and not for others because some roads suck. Fix the road and you won't have to buy new tires.
Quote from: Freak on August 22, 2008, 10:45:19 AMSorry frybread, you are wrong. If you're in lawschool, count the minority students of each race. An Asian friend of mine did where he attended and convinced me of the quota in 2007. Sad that I won't detail more because I'm scared of repercussions, but it's true. If you promise not to quote me, I'll tell you everything and delete it 5 minutes later.Freak, for the past three years I have been keeping track of the number of NDN students in the top 50 law schools - even have a spreadsheet. Guess what? There's no pattern. Some schools have lots (relatively speaking, that is, which means 5-8) one year, and then none the next. There are around 400 NDNs who apply to law school every year, and yet only 40 in the T20. You'd think that if quotas were in place, the numbers would be significantly higher, neh?
Say it out loud, Freak. Or use Google. Or look at my avatar.
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