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Chances of black 3.57, 169 from UCLA getting into T 14?

BJWriter26

Chances of black 3.57, 169 from UCLA getting into T 14?
« on: July 23, 2008, 12:31:35 PM »
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Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 01:15:00 PM »
I suspect that nobody knows.  Law schools don't want to discredit their affirmative action programs by disclosing that minority numbers are significantly lower than white ones.  I wouldn't call you a shoe-in at any of these, but you definitely have a shot in a way that a white applicant with your numbers would not.

BJWriter26

Re: Chances of black 3.57, 169 from UCLAgetting into T 14?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 02:19:19 PM »
Does anyone know of any specific LSATs/GPAs of people who got into T-14s?

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Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »
You should make use of www.lawschoolnumbers.com

It looks like this person got into UPenn with lower stats than you http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=technicalgeek

The same person shows to have gotten into Columbia, but it looks like he might have been an exception, even among URMs. 

This person got into Georgetown with much lower GPA, 1 pt higher LSAT:

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=CaribbeanGirl



You can do more research on there, but with your current stats I'm thinking Georgetown is a target, Penn maybe, Columbia no.  You're probably gonna want 3-4 points on the LSAT to have a decent shot at Columbia.  And yeah, URM is going to help you a ton.  Were you a non-URM, there would be no chance.  Having Yale as your undergrad is going to be a significant bump too.  You should have a good cycle.

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Re: Chances of black 3.57, 169 from UCLA getting into T 14?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 01:49:45 PM »
Why not CLS/Penn?

Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 04:03:05 AM »
because you have a 159 and a 3.57. duh.

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Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 08:50:28 AM »
because you have a 159 and a 3.57. duh.

no need to be rude.

Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 01:43:29 PM »

The SCOTUS AA case revealed stat indicating that a number of african americans with high 150 scores got into UVA.


Isn't that wonderful.  I had a 163 and I didn't get in, despite being a legacy and having an above-average GPA.  I guess my skin was the wrong color.  I sure am glad Americans don't discriminate anymore, that would be bad.

Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 02:41:23 PM »

The SCOTUS AA case revealed stat indicating that a number of african americans with high 150 scores got into UVA.


Isn't that wonderful.  I had a 163 and I didn't get in, despite being a legacy and having an above-average GPA.  I guess my skin was the wrong color.  I sure am glad Americans don't discriminate anymore, that would be bad.

Unintentional humor or well-developed sense of irony?

Re: Chances of black 3.57, 159 from Yale getting into T 14?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 01:40:35 PM »
Regarding Op's question: "does anyone know what the average LSAT scores are for minority (specifically black) applicants?"

LSAC has research reports that break down LSAT results by race, gender, region etc.

http://www.lsacnet.org/Research/LSAT-Performance-Regional-Gender-Racial-Ethic-Breakdowns.pdf

This data is a bit old (from the mid-90's) but the average score for a black test taker in 1997-98 was 141.8.  This data of course encompasses all black test takers; I imagine school by school breakdowns like this would be impossible to find.  The complete breakdown by ethnic group is on page 19 of the pdf.

Not to be cheeky, but asking things like "Why not CLS/Penn?" with your stats invites posters to rail against AA.