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WhiteyEMSR

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NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:47:23 PM »
Hi all, probably old news for most of you, but I found these passage rates on the National Conference of Bar Examiners' web page, and the passage rates are much higher than I expected. My state, for instance, consistently passes about 85-90% of first time takers in July.

Anyway, it made me feel a little bit better. Good luck everyone.

http://www.ncbex.org/bar-admissions/stats/
 

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Re: NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 10:55:42 PM »
Wow, Illinois has a first time passage rate of 90%? That's awesome for me. You'd think that the 10% not passing are people who aren't studying much, aren't taking barbri, are working full-time, etc. With passage rates being so high, why is the bar exam thought to be so difficult? Any of you current preparers have any input on this? Who are the 10%?

I'm also sitting for IL and have wondered about that. I actually think the % of people that legitimately fail the test is lower than 10% in that people get thrown out for having cell phones, do not return for the afternoon or second day, etc. I'm pretty sure they all "fail" for the purposes of these reports.

This rubric/explanation thing is for Maryland (and is out of 6, not 5) but gives a pretty solid explanation of what the examiners consider for each point. I think most of us can easily bull 2s and 3s all day. Combine that with a reasonable 130 raw MBE and we should be in excellent shape.

Score Description of Demonstrated Performance

6 While not necessarily perfect, an answer receiving a score of 6
demonstrates a full understanding of the relevant and material facts,
a complete recognition of the issues presented, and an excellent grasp
of the applicable principles of law. The reasoning is thorough and
amply supports all conclusions. An answer receiving a score of 6 is
clear, concise, complete, and responsive to the question.

5 An answer receiving a score of 5 demonstrates a fairly complete
understanding of the relevant and material facts, a recognition of
most of the issues, and a good grasp of the applicable principles of
law. The reasoning is basically sound and supports most of the
conclusions necessary to respond to the question.

4 An answer receiving a score of 4 demonstrates an adequate
understanding of the relevant and material facts and a recognition of
the most important issues and principles of law. The reasoning is
adequate and supports the main conclusions necessary to respond to the
question.

3 An answer receiving a score of 3 demonstrates an incomplete
understanding of the relevant and material facts and misses, to some
degree, significant issues and key principles of the applicable law.
The reasoning is partially incomplete or incorrect and does not fully
support the main conclusions necessary to respond to the question.

2 An answer receiving a score of 2 demonstrates little understanding
of the relevant and material facts or law. The reasoning is seriously
flawed and fails to support the conclusions. The conclusions are not
adequately responsive to the question.

1 An answer receiving a score of 1 demonstrates fundamental
deficiencies in understanding of both the relevant and material facts
and law. The answer is largely unsupported by reasoning, any
conclusions drawn are unsupported and/or incorrect, and the answer is
not responsive to the question.

0 An answer will be assigned a zero only if the answer book is blank
or the answer is totally unresponsive to the question. For example,
copying the question into the answer book is unresponsive and will
result in an assigned score of zero.
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Re: NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 11:31:22 PM »
80% in Georgia.  I know the odds are very much in my favor (esp. b/c my school's pass rate is so high - like 99% in GA), but I can't help but think about the 20% that fail, and worry that I'll be one of them.

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Re: NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2008, 12:27:25 AM »
65% in NC overall, 72% in July. 

Yeah, I'm a little scared about that. 

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Re: NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 01:40:57 AM »
In Nevada, for first time takers in July, the passage rate was 79% last summer. So, it's not SO bad...

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Re: NCBEX Bar Passage Rates
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 05:53:14 AM »
I hope that's because they lowered their standards and not because everyone was freaked out that they didnt study enough so they went over the top. 
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