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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2008, 06:20:15 PM »
It is generally because he just copies and pastes from his blog and doesn't really post anything else lately. It might as well be a viagra ad. FYI, Jeffislouie, high blood pressure can make you impotent.

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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2008, 06:23:28 PM »
It is generally because he just copies and pastes from his blog and doesn't really post anything else lately. It might as well be a viagra ad. FYI, Jeffislouie, high blood pressure can make you impotent.

Shhh, the world is better off.

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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2008, 07:18:34 PM »
It is generally because he just copies and pastes from his blog and doesn't really post anything else lately. It might as well be a viagra ad. FYI, Jeffislouie, high blood pressure can make you impotent.

Shhh, the world is better off.

seconded.  outta the gene pool, you.

One day, I'll probably have to worry about impotency, but for now, I rock out with my cock out....
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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2008, 07:21:29 PM »
It is generally because he just copies and pastes from his blog and doesn't really post anything else lately. It might as well be a viagra ad. FYI, Jeffislouie, high blood pressure can make you impotent.

Shhh, the world is better off.

seconded.  outta the gene pool, you.

One day, I'll probably have to worry about impotency, but for now, I rock out with my cock out....



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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2008, 07:33:00 PM »
It is generally because he just copies and pastes from his blog and doesn't really post anything else lately. It might as well be a viagra ad. FYI, Jeffislouie, high blood pressure can make you impotent.

Shhh, the world is better off.

seconded.  outta the gene pool, you.

One day, I'll probably have to worry about impotency, but for now, I rock out with my cock out....



you what?

 :D :D :D

If you have to ask....
well... let me show you.
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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2008, 01:19:16 AM »
I am new to this board as was wondering why Rick Lax is hated so much by so many people? Is it because he writes a blog or has book coming out? Just curious?

1) Because I sometimes repost LSD discussion items on my blog.

2) Jealousy.  I mean, lots of people on this board spend lots and lots of time writing about law school, and I did the same, only I got paid for it and they didn't.  That's my guess, at least. 

Um....I want to make clear, though, there are lots of smart, good people on LSD.  They're not hard to find and they do give good advice about lots of things.  But, yeah, some people are jerks.  The anonymity of the board allows them to be this way.  For more on how anonymity turns to cruelty, read Milgram or Zimbardo.


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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2008, 02:55:32 AM »
I am new to this board as was wondering why Rick Lax is hated so much by so many people? Is it because he writes a blog or has book coming out? Just curious?

1) Because I sometimes repost LSD discussion items on my blog.

2) Jealousy.  I mean, lots of people on this board spend lots and lots of time writing about law school, and I did the same, only I got paid for it and they didn't.  That's my guess, at least. 



Nor am I familiar with you, your book or your blog, RickLax. I dislike you because you raised a ruckus in a public place over a substitution charge which was clearly itemized on the menu. You were willing to pay $15 for a goddamn fish sandwich, but pitched a hissyfit over an additional $2.50 which, with your substitution request, you were obligated to pay.


Agreed. 

As a general rule, if you get into multiple fights with restaurant waiters and managers (as the thread title implies), people won't like you.

And if you got into a fight over $2.50, people won't like you.

And when you tell your dumb story in such an obviously biased way (I was so calm, and the manager was so aggressive - do you really think we can't tell you were obviously being a baby and you're trying to downplay it now and exaggerate the manager's behavior?), people won't like you.

And finally, you seem like the type that needs to be sat down, shaken, and told "No, not everyone who thinks you suck is jealous of you - they just think you suck."  Think of Lena Chen, and the 13 year olds on Maury Povich who thinks the crowd is booing her because they're jealous - that's you.

But you might be a good guy - I'm basing this all on your last post and your first post in this thread.  I figured you won't mind the criticism, since you started this thread to get people's opinion on how big a jackass you were at the restaurant.


Guys guys guys..just chill. You all need to just calm down and RickLax.

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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2008, 03:05:33 AM »
Last night I went out to dinner with my friend Alicja. I ordered the fish sandwich, which, the menu told me, cost $15. I asked the waitress whether I could substitute the fries that came with it for a baked potato, and she told me that I could.

The sandwich was fair. The taste was there, only the fish piece was long and skinny, so half of it hung over the bun and half the bun bites had no fish in them.

The bill came:

Fish Sandwich: $17.50

“Excuse me, but I thought the menu said the fish sandwich was fifteen dollars.”

This wasn’t a date, I should mention. If Alicja and I were on a date, I would have let it slide, of course.

“Hmm…I think that’s because you substituted the fries for the baked potato.”

“I wouldn’t have made the substitute if I had known it’d cost extra.”

“Let me see what I can do.”

I assumed the waitress was going to try to take the $2.50 off the bill.

I was wrong. She sent the manager over, and his opening line was this:

“I understand there’s a problem.”

“I wouldn’t call it a problem, I just-”

“Julie here tells me that you’re not willing to pay for your bill.”

Well that pissed me off.

“Actually, I didn’t say that. What I said was that I wouldn’t have substituted my fries for the baked potato if I had known it’d cost me extra. Julie, I guess her name is, didn’t tell me that it’d cost extra, so I don’t see why I should have to pay.”

The manager got a menu, shoved it in my face, and pointed to the line that said, “All side-order substitutions: $2.50”

“Well,” I said, “that’s fine. But I didn’t see it at the time.”

“It’s right there!”

“It’s hardly clear and conspicuous, and the truth is, I wasn’t on notice, so I-”

“It’s right in the menu! Right there for you to see!”

I was making Alecja uncomfortable, so I said, “Fine, I’ll pay it.”

IMMEDIATELY the manager said, “No, no, it’s no big deal, we’ll take care of it.”

And so I didn’t pay the $2.50.

So..who was right??


Rick’s Blog


Wasn't on notice? It wasn't conspicuous? Oh oh oh. What a smart little man applying nice words he learned in class. The best thing for him to do was to just RickLax. Trying to promote a certain website here I presume? Next to victims of terminal diseases, I feel sorry for Julie and that fish.

I just..I..feel like..singing. Can't..fight it..won't. Soooooo here we go!

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RickLax don't do it
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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2008, 03:20:06 AM »
Having been a restaurant manager/GM for a decade, I am well qualified to weigh in on this matter.
The manager was wrong for being accusatory and taking the server's side.  There was no 'side' to take, and by being a prick about it, he left a bad taste in the customers mouth, jeopardizing the possibility of return business (which is the lifeblood of the restaurant industry).
Bottom line - there wasn't a 'problem' that necessitated a manager stop by - the server was an idiot who made the situation worse by bringing over a bigger idiot.  She could have pointed out the menu line that states a $2.50 charge for substitution. More troubling than that is the fact that the charge was added, but not itemized on the bill as a substitution charge.
Additionally, having been a GM for so long, I am VERY familiar with food costing best practices.  French Fries cost a few pennies more than baker potatos.  Hard to believe, huh?  Well, it's true.  Fries are processed in a plant with a bunch of other ingredients, then flash frozen and shipped.  Each step makes it slightly more expensive per serving that a baked potato.  Ever wonder why some restaurants make their own fries?  2 reasons, they taste better and it's cheaper.  This is something the consumer can see as well at the supermarket - go to the freezer section and take a look at the bag of fries.  Check the cost per ounce.  Then go to produce and check out the price of a raw potato.
So charging a customer unnecessarily for actually lowering your cost of goods sold is a skeevy practice.  Avoid restaurants that do this and if you don't catch it, like Rick, tell the manager that you think the policy is stupid and it just cost them a return customer.
Finally, this was an untalented, very stupid manager.  First of all, he appears to have been very aggressive about the matter, then pretends it's no big deal and that he'd be happy to take it off the bill.  He could have done it right - tell the guest you will waive it today, then show them where it is on the menu, then tell them that you appreciate their business.  Done.  Customer happy, restaurant happy, and the server gets a tip.
In this situation, I would tell the manager that I was reducing the servers tip because there was no reason to send over a manager over something she could have easily explained herself, then I would have tipped 10%.  I also would tell the manager that if he is going to be aggressive about proving how right he is, he should have the balls to stick by what he says instead of being a prick to no end.
And lay off Rick for posting blog entries here.  He IS promoting his blog.  Yes.  Don't like it?  Don't read his posts or, better yet, don't reply to them.  Unless I'm doing something wrong, the only way to access a post on this site is to click on it.  Each one is listed with the persons name too.  What he does is hardly as upsetting as reading someone like Julie Fern speak like a caveman while being rude and calling people names like "shitbreath" because they disagree with her/him/it.  Where are you people when that happens?


Ho hoooo slow down there, Jeffiboy. You are taking this wayyyy too seriously. Is he that good in bed? You need to just calm down and RickLax.

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Re: Another Restaurant Fight
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2008, 03:36:39 AM »
All of you RickLax I got it. The best approach is to boil this down mathematically. The following equation is subjective (or "ad hoc", for the nice lawyer boys who are eager to grow up and use big words):

Self-respect < The bill - The price on the menu

If this formula were true, make all the restaurant fuss you want. Loneliness is an overdue consequence you will just have to bear.