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USNews GPA Question
« on: June 17, 2008, 10:37:58 AM »
Do the GPA scores that are reported to USNews reflect the GPA that's on your application, or the GPA you actually graduate with before you enroll at the law school?

If it's the latter, then wouldn't an upward GPA trend actually be a pretty hefty soft factor?
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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 03:09:23 PM »
I don't know the answer, and even after spending like ten minutes looking for it, I still can't find it. I'm pretty sure it comes from LSAC/the ABA, though. So, my guess is that it's the GPA you were accepted with, because LSAC would have that, while the schools would have to self-report final GPAs, and they would not have undergone the LSAC standardization process (at least in the case of people coming straight from undergrad). So I am fairly confident (though, again, just guessing) that it's your LSAC GPA.

Point two in favor of this theory: Let's suppose that most schools would like their GPA quartiles to be as high as possible. If the "official" GPA were based on final GPAs rather than LSAC GPAs, then it would be much more difficult for AdComms to predict their school's numbers based on the GPAs they accepted. If I were a school operating under that policy, I don't think I'd accept anyone from undergrad until after fall grades came out, because they would still have 25% of the UGPA to go, and anything could happen. The risk would be much less if the GPA were "locked in" when the student got accepted. Since the law schools themselves set the standards for this data, I'm sure they'd opt to be risk-averse.
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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 03:19:27 PM »
I think it's self-reported from the schools. My guess (which I believe strongly) is that it is the GPA you graduate with, in terms of LSAC's conversion.
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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 03:29:54 PM »
I'm with you two.
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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 03:36:08 PM »
I agree. It seems that sending fall grades is optional. So these grades are not relevant unless the applicant submits them to LSAC.  If law schools were required to submit updated grades I think we would hear of more students being accepted conditionally (like, you are accepted as long as you maintain your current GPA or as long as your final GPA does not dip below 3.XX).

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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 03:39:47 PM »
Good questions.  Maybe managing the incoming class size is more crucial than nailing down exact GPA percentiles?  I don't know.
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Re: USNews GPA Question
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 03:45:38 PM »
It doesn't make sense to me that you describe an incoming class's GPA in terms of what it used to be, rather than what it was at the point of being "incoming."
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