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To be considered terrorism, generally it has to be politically motivated (this is probably the only aspect of the definition that is agreed on by most experts). Because of this, an act of terror would generally not be about vengeance. In cases where no group claims credit, its general purpose is to cause instability, fear, and chaos (although it sometimes backfires, in the case of 9/11, it tended to unite rather than divide the country politically). In other cases, the group need not claim the bombing because it is obvious. In Israel for example, the various Palestinian groups need not always assume responsibility because the credit will be given to the "cause" regardless.
Yeah, I know that is the usual canned answer, but I'm looking to delve more deeply into that and question the assumptions. What if the cause isn't clearly established? What if there are a number of potential causes? What if there is one cause but a number of different groups with divergent aims regarding this cause? And if the cause is completely unclear, what the hell is the point? (Hence the vengeance speculations. Vengeance could also be political.)
Quote from: Capybara on May 13, 2008, 05:22:09 PMYeah, I know that is the usual canned answer, but I'm looking to delve more deeply into that and question the assumptions. What if the cause isn't clearly established? What if there are a number of potential causes? What if there is one cause but a number of different groups with divergent aims regarding this cause? And if the cause is completely unclear, what the hell is the point? (Hence the vengeance speculations. Vengeance could also be political.)I was thinking along similar lines, when the NY Times article stated that it is the norm in India for no group to claim responsibility for terrorist acts. What could be the point?
Quote from: UnbiasedObserver on May 14, 2008, 06:33:14 PMQuote from: Capybara on May 13, 2008, 05:22:09 PMYeah, I know that is the usual canned answer, but I'm looking to delve more deeply into that and question the assumptions. What if the cause isn't clearly established? What if there are a number of potential causes? What if there is one cause but a number of different groups with divergent aims regarding this cause? And if the cause is completely unclear, what the hell is the point? (Hence the vengeance speculations. Vengeance could also be political.)I was thinking along similar lines, when the NY Times article stated that it is the norm in India for no group to claim responsibility for terrorist acts. What could be the point? Exactly. I mean, the only reason we assume "Pakistan" is because the Indian government says IT assumes Pakistan. But that could just be a political ploy for its own advantage. It just doesn't make much sense.