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Ranking of Top 40 Law Schools by Student (Numerical) Quality 2008 Brian Leiter

Brian Leiter's Law School Rankings
Ranking of Top 40 Law Schools by Student (Numerical) Quality 2008

Rank by Average of 75th/25th LSAT

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,98155.60.html


STANFORD ???

Does this ranking change any minds about the holy trinity YHS?

Does this ranking change any minds about the holy trinity YHS?
Should it? Stanford (like Berkeley and probably other West Coast schools) weighs GPA much more heavily than LSAT (compared to other schools) for whatever reason. So in a chart that ranks schools based solely on LSAT score, they should do poorly -- being 6th isn't that bad! (Note that Berkeley is 14th...)

And if you rank by GPA, they're right back there in 3rd, barely behind Harvard and well ahead of everyone else.

This isn't to say we should rank schools solely on their own terms (a la Cooley) but it would be just as foolish to base one's perception of a law school on one metric.

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The Leiter rankings are such a cop-out. "Brian Leiter's Law School Rankings: Ranking of Top 40 Law Schools by Student (Numerical) Quality 2008" makes it sound like some great statistics expert is carefully weighing factors, but all the guy does to get 'student quality' is average two publicly available numbers.

Does this ranking change any minds about the holy trinity YHS?
Should it? Stanford (like Berkeley and probably other West Coast schools) weighs GPA much more heavily than LSAT (compared to other schools) for whatever reason. So in a chart that ranks schools based solely on LSAT score, they should do poorly -- being 6th isn't that bad! (Note that Berkeley is 14th...)

And if you rank by GPA, they're right back there in 3rd, barely behind Harvard and well ahead of everyone else.

This isn't to say we should rank schools solely on their own terms (a la Cooley) but it would be just as foolish to base one's perception of a law school on one metric.

Stanford is a great school!    Some World Rankings of universities list it as number 2 in the World...with Harvard as 1, Berkeley 3 and Cambridge 4. http://www.arwu.org/rank/2007/ARWU2007_Top100.htm

Right... that's what I was saying... what were you trying to say in your "Holy Trinity" post?

Right... that's what I was saying... what were you trying to say in your "Holy Trinity" post?

Simply...
A lot of top caliber students attend schools not part of the holy trinity. Some LSDers forget. Hearty congrats Bulldog86 on UVA...and to ManTGeo on Harvard!

2009 Raw Data Law School Rankings

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The Philosophical Gourmet Report by  Brian Leiter

"...For purposes of students thinking about teaching careers, the most important factor is the scholarly distinction of the faculty. There are some 180 accredited law schools in the U.S., but the top 12 law schools in terms of faculty quality are (in alphabetical order) the following:

Columbia University
 University of Chicago
 
Georgetown University
 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
 
Harvard University
 University of Pennsylvania
 
New York University
 University of Texas, Austin
 
Stanford University
 University of Virginia
 
University of California, Berkeley
 Yale University
 
On the cusp of the "top 12" are Cornell University; Duke University; Northwestern University; University of California, Los Angeles and, maybe, University of Southern California. Graduates of these 17 schools also dominate the job market for law teachers, though graduates of Yale, Harvard, Chicago, and Stanford have a disproportionately large share of that market as compared to the others...." http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/lawsch.asp