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Who is the greatest basketball player of all time??

Michael Jordan
 35 (72.9%)
Kobe Bryant
 5 (10.4%)
Bill Russell
 2 (4.2%)
Magic Johnson
 5 (10.4%)
Larry Bird
 1 (2.1%)

Total Members Voted: 48

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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2008, 01:24:09 PM »
We all know that while Jordan may not have had an inside presence, he had the best supporting cast....Any nba analyst or specialist will tell you that.  From armstrong to pippen, to ron harper, to kucoc, to paxson, to rodman..Jordan hands down had the best supporting casts. Hats off to the bulls GM back than.....

I do believe he had a good supporting cast with some years much better than others.  However, when he had his best team (Pippen & Rodman), he didn't just win a title - he set the record for regular season wins. 

This year Kobe finally has a good supporting cast.  I would consider it equal or greater to several of Jordan's teams. 

I agree. This is the first year Kobe has a real supporting cast.  The thing we have to factor is injuries.  Gasol only played the last 20 games or so. Bynum has been hurt since all star break. And ariza too, is there 2nd best defender.  They won a large amount of games with all these injuries. I look for them to set records when healthy.....

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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2008, 03:42:47 PM »
20 are u trying to become kobe's wing man? we get it.. u think kobe's best lol
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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2008, 04:08:02 PM »
20 are u trying to become kobe's wing man? we get it.. u think kobe's best lol

Nah Just a kobe fanatic...thats all lol

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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2008, 09:47:40 AM »
Couple months late on this one, but Kobe is superior to Michael Jordan in just about every way.

Kobe has a superior 3 point shot and more range than Jordan. This is undisputed.

Kobe has a better midrange jumper than Jordan. Kobe's fade is about the same, although Kobe can fade from 19 feet accurately where Michael's range topped out at around 12-14 feet.

Kobe and Jordan's passing ability are comparable

Kobe and Jordan's defense are of similar quality. Jordan, at his best, had perhaps the best defensive wing of all time in Pippen playing next to him. Kobe has never had such luxury.

Jordan's more efficient, but this is because Kobe's a better three point shooter and doesn't get nearly the same calls that Jordan got to erase many of his missed FGAs.

Jordan has more career achievements, but also played in an era where, on average, the competition was far below the quality it is today.

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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2008, 12:07:28 PM »
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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2008, 02:30:33 PM »
They played in different officiating eras, which is important not to overlook.

While defense was considerably "tougher" during Jordan's era (less bs calls, less flopping, less handcheck calls, etc.), Jordan never had to face the zone or help style defenses that are popular today.

That said, Kobe is more talented, Jordan perhaps slightly more athletic, but far more willful, headstrong, and dominating. At least so far.

It's a push either way. I'd take Kobe in many situations, or Jordan in others. If LeBron ever develops a consistent jump shot and a killer attitude, though, watch out. But right now he's miles from where Kobe and Jordan are.
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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2008, 02:36:49 PM »
How is Wilt Chamberlain not on this list?
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Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2008, 02:58:11 PM »
It is not even close people.

Before going to the Wizards, Jordan played 13 full seasons (although he was injured through most of his second season).  Kobe has played 12.  Jordan led a team to 6 rings.  Kobe led his team to 0 rings.

That being said, Jordan leads Kobe in the following statistical categories over his career: points per game, steals per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, blocks per game, field goal percentage, and basic awesomeness. (And these numbers include the two years he played with the Wizards - far beyond his peak.)

Kobe, on the other hand, leads Jordan in the following categories: personal fouls per game, technical fouls per game, snitching out teammates per season, and rape attempts per career.

Jordan did something at 35 that Kobe can't do at 29 - win a title.  It is not even close.

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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2008, 03:01:58 PM »
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Couple months late on this one, but Kobe is superior to Michael Jordan in just about every way

Kobe is every bit as talented as Jordan, bur talent alone is not what defines a great athlete.  Jordan had the ability to take over and will his team to victory.  He never would have allowed his team to be up 24 points in a pivotal game in the NBA finals and lose the lead.  He simply wouldn't have allowed it.  That's the difference.  Jordan would not have ever let his team lose that one.  End of argument. 

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« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2008, 03:53:22 PM »

Kobe, on the other hand, leads Jordan in the following categories: personal fouls per game, technical fouls per game, snitching out teammates per season, and rape attempts per career.


Haha, nice.

Thanks.  And it just happens to be true.