Law School Discussion

$$$$ Seton Hall vs. $$$ St. John's vs. part time Brooklyn vs eve Fordham

Hi!
 I have had a very strange experience with my applications to law schools, capped off by being put on the waiting list at Northeastern and getting into Boston University!!!! (granted I am a strange candidate... 10 years out of college with 8 years in international diplomacy)
Anyways because of personal issues I can no longer consider attending school in Boston or anywhere else except for the NYC region.
In that region I have been admitted Seton Hall with a scholarship representing roughly 3/4 the cost of attendance, at St. John's I was offered 1/3 cost of attendance, Brooklyn part time day (90% of last years pt/day transfered to ft after first semester), and Fordham evening. Still waiting on Cardozo.
I'd like to work in a mid sized nyc firm. Any thoughts on these choices????
I really appreciate any help!

St Johns Scholly or Fordham evening. I'd really recommend BU though, unless you absolutely can't leave nyc.

Hi

I had very similar results to you (op) in this application cycle. I am having a tough time choosing as well. My feeling is that Seton Hall while strong in NJ is somewhat weak in NYC. I am not 100% sure why St. John's is 25 positions lower than Seton Hall and Brooklyn (if anyone knows why I would love to hear from you) but it seems like St. John's graduates have a far better shot at an NYC firm
(take a look at the amount of St. John's grads at Simpson Thacher for example) compared with SHU (perhaps this explains why I got so much more money from SHU as compared to St. John's). I guess my advice would be to check out all the schools and see which one feels like more of a fit. Beyond that perhaps you have to ask yourself realistically how well you believe you will do in Law school, if you really think you will be top 10% go to Brooklyn or St. John's if not I would take Seton Hall and their money and get a nice decent job at a NJ firm.   

Hey so I don't claim that this is in anyway telling or even necessarily accurate but I just did a random sampling of placement from Brooklyn, St. John's, and Seton Hall at Law Firms with NYC offices listed by BBLP. I choose 10 firms randomly and here are the results (if I added it up correctly which I may not have since my teacher appears to have a suspicion that I am not listening to her lecture). Again not sure this is really helpful but here it is... I will post more if I get around to continuing this. I would look at the partners and associates as the other designations can sometimes be misleading.

St. Johnís

23 partners 39 associates 9 counsel 3 of counsel 2 staff attorneys 2 special counsel 1 senor staff attorney.


Kirkland and Ellis -1 partner 3 associates
Akin Gump- 1 Partner 2 counsel 1 staff attorney
Pillsbury-  2 partner
Simpson Thatcher- 7 partners, 16 associates, 1 of counsel, 2 counsel, 1 not admitted.
Bingham- 1 partner, 4 associates, 1 counsel
Sullivan Cromwell- 1 partner, 3 associates, 1 special counsel
WilmerHale- 1 partner, 1 associate, 1 special counsel
King & Spalding- 3 partners, 3 associates, 1 staff attorney
Paul Weiss- 3 associates, 1 of counsel, 2 counsel, 1 senior staff attorney
Dewey LeBoeuf- 3 partners, 5 associates, 1 of counsel, 2 counsel

 

Seton Hall

7 partners, 19 associates 3 counsel 1 senior staff attorney



Kirkland and Ellis- 2 partners and 4 associates
Akin Gump- 1 Associate
Pillsbury- 1 Partner 1 associate
Simpson Thatcher- 2 partners, 3 associates.
Bingham- 1 Associate
Sullivan Cromwell- 0
WilmerHale- 2 counsels
King & Spaliding- 2 Partners, 1 associate, 1 counsel
Paul, Weiss- 1 associate, 1 senior staff attorney
Dewey LeBoeuf- 7 associates




Brooklyn

22 partners, 63 associates 10 counsel 3 staff attorneys 1 special counsel 1 senior staff attorney


Kirkland and Ellis -5 associates
Akin Gump- 1 Partner 3 associates 3 counsel
Pillsbury- 4 partners, 5 associates, 1 counsel
Simpson, Thatcher- 2 partners, 1 counsel, 11 associates, 2 not admitted
Bingham- 3 partners, 3 associates, 1 counsel
Sullivan Cromwell- 3 partners, 12 associates, 1 special counsel
WilmerHale- 3 partners, 3 associates, 3 staff attorneys
King & Spaliding- 2 associates
Paul, Weiss- 1 Partner, 8 associates, 2 counsel, 1 senior staff attorney
Dewy LeBoeuf Ė 5 partners, 10 associates, 1 of counsel, 2 counsel