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Men: Buying a suit...

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Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2008, 11:34:44 PM »
do not not not wear, purchase, or buy a black suit as a first, second, or even third suit. They scream inexperience and lack of knowledge regarding legal (or even more generally sartorial) culture.

While true in some circumstances, it is not a universal rule.  I've worked for attorneys that would only appear in front of a judge in a black, or dark charcoal suit

Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2008, 12:25:06 AM »
do not not not wear, purchase, or buy a black suit as a first, second, or even third suit. They scream inexperience and lack of knowledge regarding legal (or even more generally sartorial) culture.

While true in some circumstances, it is not a universal rule.  I've worked for attorneys that would only appear in front of a judge in a black, or dark charcoal suit

Nothing is a universal rule. And, as you advance farther along in practice, you certainly can have more flexibility in terms of what you wear.
However, I don't think anyone with a decent level of etiquette / sartorial knowledge would disagree: you should not wear a black suit except for somber (funeral) or highly formal (dinner party, casino charity event, gala) occassions. Don't know why there is such resistance to this point - I've seen several posters try to defend this notion. I have nothing invested in getting people to not wear black suits folks. I'm just telling it like it is. A black suit = a giveaway that you haven't played in the big leagues before. I've personally never seen a partner - and, at this point, I've had the pleasure and the pain of meeting many v20 partners - wearing a black suit, day or night. One exception, and that was at a symphony in the late evening (per my rule)

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that some of the resistance is because people already bought a suit, and its black ... ;)? I can't change what the expectations of the culture are. I can, however, inform you that there are usually great sales twice yearly at many fine mens stores throughout the nation. Start looking!

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« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2008, 12:29:14 AM »
do not not not wear, purchase, or buy a black suit as a first, second, or even third suit. They scream inexperience and lack of knowledge regarding legal (or even more generally sartorial) culture.

While true in some circumstances, it is not a universal rule.  I've worked for attorneys that would only appear in front of a judge in a black, or dark charcoal suit

Nothing is a universal rule. And, as you advance farther along in practice, you certainly can have more flexibility in terms of what you wear.
However, I don't think anyone with a decent level of etiquette / sartorial knowledge would disagree: you should not wear a black suit except for somber (funeral) or highly formal (dinner party, casino charity event, gala) occassions. Don't know why there is such resistance to this point - I've seen several posters try to defend this notion. I have nothing invested in getting people to not wear black suits folks. I'm just telling it like it is. A black suit = a giveaway that you haven't played in the big leagues before. I've personally never seen a partner - and, at this point, I've had the pleasure and the pain of meeting many v20 partners - wearing a black suit, day or night. One exception, and that was at a symphony in the late evening (per my rule)

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that some of the resistance is because people already bought a suit, and its black ... ;)? I can't change what the expectations of the culture are. I can, however, inform you that there are usually great sales twice yearly at many fine mens stores throughout the nation. Start looking.


I don't know man.  I'm convinced you have some vested interest in a textile mill that specializes in lighter colored fabrics...

Your post makes sense to me I mean.

Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2008, 12:36:27 AM »
do not not not wear, purchase, or buy a black suit as a first, second, or even third suit. They scream inexperience and lack of knowledge regarding legal (or even more generally sartorial) culture.

While true in some circumstances, it is not a universal rule.  I've worked for attorneys that would only appear in front of a judge in a black, or dark charcoal suit

Nothing is a universal rule. And, as you advance farther along in practice, you certainly can have more flexibility in terms of what you wear.
However, I don't think anyone with a decent level of etiquette / sartorial knowledge would disagree: you should not wear a black suit except for somber (funeral) or highly formal (dinner party, casino charity event, gala) occassions. Don't know why there is such resistance to this point - I've seen several posters try to defend this notion. I have nothing invested in getting people to not wear black suits folks. I'm just telling it like it is. A black suit = a giveaway that you haven't played in the big leagues before. I've personally never seen a partner - and, at this point, I've had the pleasure and the pain of meeting many v20 partners - wearing a black suit, day or night. One exception, and that was at a symphony in the late evening (per my rule)

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that some of the resistance is because people already bought a suit, and its black ... ;)? I can't change what the expectations of the culture are. I can, however, inform you that there are usually great sales twice yearly at many fine mens stores throughout the nation. Start looking.


I don't man.  I'm convinced you have some vested interest in a textile mill that specializes in lighter colored fabrics...

Your post makes sense to me I mean.

Balls! The gig is up! I've been found. Look ... I think we can keep this hush-hush, no? The Lighter Suits for a Greater America Reatilers Group is a highly profitable yet simultaneously secretive and mysterious interest group. I'm sure we can bring you in ... only one rule: seersucker suits are mandatory for all the meetings ...

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« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2008, 12:48:27 AM »










Gump = close enough

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« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2008, 01:26:19 AM »
Hmmm, I think I'll just stick with my $150 dark navy nautica suit from Syms that got me a big firm job as a 1L. The firm is business casual though, only a few partners wear suits and ties, most people where just nice dress shirts and pants.

I'll go for a much more expensive suit if I end up at one of the really conservative firms, no need to blow 600-700 more dollars unless necessary.

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Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« Reply #66 on: April 26, 2008, 01:28:07 AM »
Tiggity wiggity tag.


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« Reply #67 on: April 26, 2008, 10:17:03 AM »
I'm convinced DS could pull off a seersucker with style if need be...with a fancy hat perhaps...

but maybe not for SA.



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« Reply #68 on: April 26, 2008, 04:21:22 PM »
Seersucker and business cards, that guy would be unstoppable.

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Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« Reply #69 on: April 26, 2008, 05:17:13 PM »
Make sure to get a black suit as your first suit, it is the most versatile.  Some people will recommend a navy or grey, but black is a power suit.  I like a jet black suit with strong pin stripes, it really does command respect.