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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2005, 12:02:04 AM »
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?
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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2005, 01:02:17 AM »
First, Hell no blacks don't hate Koreans. Now as for the Ice Cube statements, there are liquor stores and carry outs on every corner in Black communities. These are usually owned by Asians. Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community. And it is also that the money made in these stores does not go back into Afro American businesses in the community. This does not mean we hate Koreans it just means we are aware of the exploitation of lower income black communities.

Yes, I agree that hate is too strong a word.  I believe that blacks and koreans get along just fine, for the most part.  I'm just trying to explore this perception of exploitation.  Does running a business necessarily mean exploitation?  I mean, people dont have to eat at those restaurants.  Its not like the restaurant and liquor store owners are forcing people to pay double-price.  I equate the word "exploitation" with "victimization", and I dont know if this situation is so extreme.  I do believe, however, there are exploitations going on in the ghetto that are far worse and demand more attention.  Would you agree?  For example, asking a young kid to stand on the corner and blow a whistle everytime a cop comes, then paying the kid money.  Is that exploitation?  My intention is not to emphasize the negativity, but to redirect the focus onto other issues in hopes of a better society.
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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2005, 07:12:35 AM »
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?

I don't know but it's not a common practice. I know If a lot did the community would probably attack them about it.


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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2005, 03:14:00 PM »
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?

I don't know but it's not a common practice. I know If a lot did the community would probably attack them about it.



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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2005, 04:53:25 PM »
I just don't understand why you'd say a black person would not run a liquor store when there are black people running illegal businesses just as harmful (i.e. selling drugs.) I imagine if a black drug dealer, or someone with a similar mentality had the means to open a liquor store and could make good money at it, they probably would.

But liquor stores require more up-front investment than other businesses, because you have to get a special license and can only operate in certain areas (not within X feet of a church or school, etc.) It's highly regulated and expensive up front. I think that's the reason blacks who go into drug sales don't own liquor stores instead. It's not out of some community spirit.

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Sorry this sounds kind of bitchy! What I mean is, yeah, there are all kinds of people taking advantage of majority-minority communities. But I don't think a person who invests in a legal, tax-paying business which is patronized by the community is taking advantage.
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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2005, 07:28:58 PM »
true koreans (i.e. born and raised in korea, as opposed to pseudo koreans - their kids born in america) are some of the most racist people that you'll encounter

that being said, black people hate everyone

I have to agree here, but not in the sense of a stereotype(and I don't think that's what he means either), but culturally Koreans are very racist.  I personally have no problem with Koreans, though, being black I guess that means something or other.

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2005, 09:21:28 PM »
i have to agree with youngike on this one, or at least with his line of reasoning.  to further the discussion, there is animosity between the store owner and his customers.  i live in new orleans, and many corner-store owners are either iraqi or vietnamese.  they cater to inner-city african americans, and profit from many products that harm the african american community -- alcohol, cigarrettes, philly blunts.  sure, there is a demand for these products, but there must also be a sense of exploitation as well. 

with regard to the owner, he is not a simple worker, presumably dispassionate to the store and its contents.  to the owner, the store is his source of income, his livlihood.  it is no secret that shoplifting, robbery, and other objectionable behavior afflicts many of these communities.  the owners have to frequently deal with this as well. 

basically, it is a two-way street.  i don't think it is fair or possible to generalize blacks' feelings toward koreans, or vice-versa. 

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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2005, 10:49:24 PM »
ah that's the biggest bunch of victimizing responsibility-revoking crap

let's not attempt to create our own destinies as they have already been defined for us by the white, yellow, red, whatever-color-that-isn't-black forces that be

it is not the gunshop owner (and we're talking the by and large here, ignore the minority of examples detailing gross negligence)but the man who pulls the trigger who is ULTIMATELY responsible

accountability no longer seems to have any meaning in this country ....
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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2005, 03:48:07 PM »
I understand that there is often animosity between non-black store owners and black customers. But I think some of the anger is misplaced. It'd be one thing if these liquor stores were patronized by people from all over the city, and economics or environmental racism or something located them in black neighborhoods, like a city wide NIMBY situation. But it's not. These are, from what I see, local businesses that cater to the neighborhood in which they are located. Service is crappy? Prices too high? Then that's a great business opportunity for a competing convenience store. Now I think there is a legitimate anger that capital is concentrated in the hands of the few and many black would-be entrepreneurs are shut out of business opportunities like this due to lack of capital. But the solution  to that would lie in public policy or law enforcement: making small business loans widely available, educating people on business operations, enforcing fair lending laws.
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Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2005, 12:55:21 AM »
I dated a Korean woman and the idea of did blacks hate koreans was brought up. Her take was that the Koreans in L.A. exploited the black community and often treated black customers like crap. And by crap, I mean following customers around the store, speaking in another language while pointing at black customers, putting change on the counter instead of the black customers' hands. And so the burning of the Korean stores was an outlash at the obvious lack of respect the Korean community had for Blacks.

I'm not from LA, so I can't speak for black people there, but in general black people don't hate Koreans. I've never heard any of my black friends ever talk negatively about Koreans or Asians for that matter. I will say that I think there may be some animosity in the black community since Asians are seen as the "model minority" and they do whatever they can to be perceived as "not black." So I think they latch on to a lot of the negative stereotypes and generalizations about black people that makes any communication, relationship, and unity between the two communities very strained.