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Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« on: June 08, 2004, 12:53:31 PM »
Yikes!

http://news.findlaw.com/news/s/20040608/securitytorturedc.html

Question: If the government has information that there is a ticking nuclear bomb in a major city with a 2 hour fuse - and they supposedly have a person in custody who knows where it is - do we torture him to find and disarm it to save a hundred thousand lives?
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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 12:55:34 PM »
I believe that is covered by international law.  The answer is yes, but it is a decision for a judge.

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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2004, 10:08:02 AM »
I disagree.  Once you start down this road it leads to a bad place.  Given the hypo, what if the guy doesn't respond to torture but is protective of his child.  Would it be ok to threaten or torture the child to get information from the father?  Would you murder and one innocent person to save a million?
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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 10:13:09 AM »
I disagree.  Once you start down this road it leads to a bad place.  Given the hypo, what if the guy doesn't respond to torture but is protective of his child.  Would it be ok to threaten or torture the child to get information from the father?  Would you murder and one innocent person to save a million?

I"m gonna leave my beliefs out of this for a minute, but in answering your question this is exactly what countries do every day.

How many innocents were killed in bombing during Bush War I and II to at least nominally save others?


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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 10:57:41 AM »
Ah but there's usually when civilians were bombed they were not the target.  Perhaps I'm a dreamer but I really believe that we should try to set an example for the world.  It wasn't the force of our arms that defeated communism.  It was the strength of our ideas.  The idea you shouldn't build a fence to keep your citizens from fleeing to the next country, the idea that you can walk down a street without presenting your papers, and the idea that if you're questioned about a crime you've got the right not to say a thing.
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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2007, 02:22:38 AM »
Oh noes!

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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2007, 02:25:12 AM »
Oh noes!

You should get used to it right away.

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Re: Report: Justice Dept. Memo Offers Basis for Torture
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2007, 02:25:54 AM »
Bears.

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2007, 02:26:46 AM »
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