Quote from: TheFloridaGuy on May 10, 2005, 10:48:12 PMHey Willy, I heard Machen has gotten rid of the Florida resident cap for UF law. Not sure if thats correct or not, but if it is, it's all about the rankings.Wow, I wonder if that is true. If so, it could have major implications for UF, since they reject a lot of their best candidates (out-of-state). If you find a link to the news, let me know.By the way, is Machen really nationally known? I had never heard of him before he came to UF.
Hey Willy, I heard Machen has gotten rid of the Florida resident cap for UF law. Not sure if thats correct or not, but if it is, it's all about the rankings.
I am not sure where you get the "almot 50%" FSU graduates in government practice. That figure is wrong. The ABA statistics have 30% of FSU graduates going into government practice, and 24% of UF graduates going into government practice. There is a bit of a revolving door here. Many of the most successful lawyers start out at US Attorneys, or agency lawyers, going to law firms laterally with premium experience later in their careers.We should not only look at total placement numbers, but look at the quality of the placements. Nova graduates who are solo or small frm practitioners in Miami do not matter one bit in evaluating your placement in the market. As I see it, the question is which graduates are likely to be consider by larger firms, and I think that here UF and FSU are competitive; about some firms (e.g., Stearns, Weaver) have a preference for FSU graduates, while others (Holland, Knight) have a preference for UF grads, everything else equal.
Much has been made so far about whether FSU, UF, Miami is a good option for someone contemplating working in NYC. Some points are good, others are based in conventional wisdom, but most on myth.Does Miami place well in NYC? Depends on what you mean by "place." Many persons attend Miami from the Northeast (go to Miami Beach on a weekday, and you're as likely to hear Brooklyn accents as you are Cuban accents). These students tend to avoid the state schools, many of which are located in--well, the sticks. Many of them ALREADY have connections back in NYC (especially those in the Jewish community). So, they head back upon graduation, partly because they fully intended to after graduation, and partly because there aren't that many jobs in Miami to support 4 law schools. Miami's relatively high starting salary is a function of this NYC flight, and not an acknowledgement of quality. So, these graduates, even if they went to UF, FSU, etc. would get a job in NYC, assuming they had the contacts to begin with. Miami's placement office will be helpful, but the extent to which it would be helpful is overblown.The bottom line is none of the schools mentioned fulfills the requirements of getting a job in NYC: go to a local school, or go to a Top 13/14/15 or similar "wow" school.
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