One thing I noticed growing up, even before I had any political views whatsoever, was just how extraordinarily easy it was for a white person to get accused of racism. A mere facial expression or a neutral-sounding statement can be used to paint you as a bigot.
well, let me tell you. I believe what that person says about where s/he grew up. I grew up in the Gary. IN area, VERY diverse and everything, and white people got accused of racism all the time just for looking at black people funny.
Quote from: psr13 on August 09, 2005, 04:45:22 AMI am not bent on being defensive. Your culture has a lot to do about where you are raised. It does, but I think it probably has as much if not more to do with how one was raised and especially with who did the raising. Culture, according to the vast majority of anthropologists, is all about shared values and norms. Places do not impart values and norms; people do. You still haven't given your definition of what exactly you mean by culture. Unless and until you do, further discussion is meaningless, as it is very likely we will merely be arguing around or over each other's ideas, because we are probably assigning different meanings to the same word.There is one huge reason why Cuban is not usually considered a culture. Considered by whom? UNESCO? A specific anthropological theory or anthropologist? Just you? I think most Cubans, if not most Latinos/as or Hispanics, would strongly disagree with you or whomever it is that you are citing. And unless you happen to have a least a master's (or better yet, a doctorate) in anthropology, and/or have completed an ethnography in or on Cuba or Cubans, you will forgive me if I am uninclined to merely take your word on something like this. Either show me the word of someone who is more credible, or show me some credentials before you start talking about some fuzzy entity or entities who do "not usually consider[]" Cuban a culture.It is too big of an area, and there are many cultures inside of it. It would be the same as saying the American culture. There really is no American culture in the sense of culture. There are some norms, but it is not actually considered to be a culture. Once again, the criterion you have mentioned falls flat. You could say much the same thing about France, Spain, Italy, China, Japan, and in fact, about most places (and their associated peoples) on Earth. The presence of sub-cultures doesn't disporve the existence of a larger supra-culture to which those sub-cultures belong. And the fact that there may be some regional variations in customs (things like language and vocabulary, food, dress, etc.; I think this might be what you were referring to) doesn't necessarily mean that the population doesn't share a basic cultural consensus consisting of common, shared norms and values. All these nations have strong regional variation, probably far more vairation than can be found in Cuba (which by the way, is big for an island, but pretty small as far as population or land area is concerned when talking about countries or nations generally). Would you also like to deny the existence of these cultures?
I am not bent on being defensive. Your culture has a lot to do about where you are raised. It does, but I think it probably has as much if not more to do with how one was raised and especially with who did the raising. Culture, according to the vast majority of anthropologists, is all about shared values and norms. Places do not impart values and norms; people do. You still haven't given your definition of what exactly you mean by culture. Unless and until you do, further discussion is meaningless, as it is very likely we will merely be arguing around or over each other's ideas, because we are probably assigning different meanings to the same word.There is one huge reason why Cuban is not usually considered a culture. Considered by whom? UNESCO? A specific anthropological theory or anthropologist? Just you? I think most Cubans, if not most Latinos/as or Hispanics, would strongly disagree with you or whomever it is that you are citing. And unless you happen to have a least a master's (or better yet, a doctorate) in anthropology, and/or have completed an ethnography in or on Cuba or Cubans, you will forgive me if I am uninclined to merely take your word on something like this. Either show me the word of someone who is more credible, or show me some credentials before you start talking about some fuzzy entity or entities who do "not usually consider[]" Cuban a culture.It is too big of an area, and there are many cultures inside of it. It would be the same as saying the American culture. There really is no American culture in the sense of culture. There are some norms, but it is not actually considered to be a culture.