Law School Discussion

Anyone else going to GULC?

TrojanChispas

  • ****
  • 4667
  • , a worthy adversary
    • View Profile
Anyone else going to GULC?
« on: April 29, 2005, 03:19:11 AM »
i just sent my deposit to GULC and want to know if anyone has pics they took of the school when they visited or wanted to discuss anything related to the school.

is anyone else intersted in trial advocacy and the clinical programs or moot court?

Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2005, 07:13:10 AM »
I'm going to Georgetown.

I've been doing a lot of thinking about Curriculum B, and I'm almost certain I'm going to sign up for it. I've talked to a lot of current students in the program and in the traditional curriculum, and it sounds like the interdisciplinary approach is just what I'm looking for. (I seriously considered applying to political theory PhD programs instead of law school.) Is anyone else here considering/definitely signing up for Curriculum B? Also, does anyone know when we make that choice? Is it with the second tuition deposit?

I'm also potentially interested in the Federal Legislation Clinic. My first job out of college was as an assistant policy analyst for a think tank, and though I liked the goal of influencing legislation (and public opinion), I consistently felt like I couldn't do a good job because I didn't know enough about the law. It might be good to try again with more knowledge and guidance. However, I am concerned that since my politics are quite different from the predominating liberal mindset of Georgetown, I would have to work on legislation I am personally opposed to. I guess I'll be talking to some people who have been through the program about that when it's time to sign up for clinics.

TrojanChispas

  • ****
  • 4667
  • , a worthy adversary
    • View Profile
Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2005, 07:28:18 AM »
I'm going to Georgetown.

I've been doing a lot of thinking about Curriculum B, and I'm almost certain I'm going to sign up for it. I've talked to a lot of current students in the program and in the traditional curriculum, and it sounds like the interdisciplinary approach is just what I'm looking for. (I seriously considered applying to political theory PhD programs instead of law school.) Is anyone else here considering/definitely signing up for Curriculum B? Also, does anyone know when we make that choice? Is it with the second tuition deposit?

I'm also potentially interested in the Federal Legislation Clinic. My first job out of college was as an assistant policy analyst for a think tank, and though I liked the goal of influencing legislation (and public opinion), I consistently felt like I couldn't do a good job because I didn't know enough about the law. It might be good to try again with more knowledge and guidance. However, I am concerned that since my politics are quite different from the predominating liberal mindset of Georgetown, I would have to work on legislation I am personally opposed to. I guess I'll be talking to some people who have been through the program about that when it's time to sign up for clinics.

congrats *dap*  i was thinking about the cirriculum B also, because i am not going to take the bar in DC and would like to know the concepts and thinking behind the law since that is what seems to be applicable everywhere.  or do i have the wrong impression of the difference between a and b?

Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2005, 09:17:20 AM »

congrats *dap*  i was thinking about the cirriculum B also, because i am not going to take the bar in DC and would like to know the concepts and thinking behind the law since that is what seems to be applicable everywhere.  or do i have the wrong impression of the difference between a and b?

The difference between the two curricula doesn't have anything to do with how applicable the education is to the law in different states. As I understand it, almost everything you learn in law school is federal, mostly based on Supreme Court cases, maybe with a few notes about state law exceptions for the state you're in (especially at regional schools?). Both A and B should give you a nationwide understanding of the law, as well as the important concepts behind it.

As I understand it, the difference in Curriculum B is that, instead of spending all your time figuring out what the black letter law is and going through the minutia of different rules, you do a quicker overview of the black letter law and then spend much more time thinking about the concepts behind it, ways it could have come out different, whether the application of the law by the Supreme Court is really what Congress intended, and so forth. When I visited GULC (I sat in on a class from each section), I learned that most Curriculum B classes don't even use a regular legal casebook. Instead, they have xeroxed packets. I looked through the one belonging to the student sitting next to me - it had cases, of course, but it also had history essays, political theory papers, etc. I was told that the reading for the first day of class was from Thoreau's Civil Disobedience.

So, for people who just want to practice regular law, Curriculum B may be a waste of time (depending on what your personal interests are). But for people who have an interest in academia, a lot of interdisciplinary interests, a more philosophical temperament, etc., I think it's a good choice.

A group of radical Curriculum B students have set up a website to inform others / incite change / share class information. It's useful, but take it with a grain of salt: These seem to be the most radical of the bunch, and they have a particular vision not only of what B is, but of what it should be. http://sectionthree.org/

There's also a Curriculum B student with a blog who occasionally writes about why B is good/different. Here's his archive of B stuff: http://scoplaw.blogs.com/scoplaw/section_3/index.html

TrojanChispas

  • ****
  • 4667
  • , a worthy adversary
    • View Profile
Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2005, 09:20:44 AM »
wow thanks!

do you think it would be helpful to do b if you are interested in trial work?

Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2005, 09:44:50 AM »
wow thanks!

do you think it would be helpful to do b if you are interested in trial work?

That sounds like exactly the type of question that would be good to post on the section3.org message board.

TrojanChispas

  • ****
  • 4667
  • , a worthy adversary
    • View Profile
Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2005, 09:57:57 AM »
done.  it seems that knowing the histor and theory behind the law would help in fashioning an oral argument, no?

Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2005, 11:43:09 AM »
 Hey there,
I am going to Gtown next fall. I will be living in the student housing too (assuming the housing lottery will not be a problem.)

I am interested in trial advocacy, moot court, and clinical work (like you) as well as international law. Gtown ranks high for all this stuff, and I think being a litigator will be much more exciting than being a transactional lawyer. Also if you focus in trial advocacy Gtown reccomends taking a wide variety of other courses that interest the student. I think that This is the type of flexibility that will be nice througout all three years.

I think that the A program is better for people who arn't sure about what direction they want to go into because it allows students to take an optional course their first year (like introduction to international law.) I am also thinking about a clerkship, does anyone know if Gtown has advantages for getting federal clerkships? or the kinds of advantages students get (aside from the obvious) of being nestled a few blocks away from all three center's of power in America?

Also to 3peat, you might want to look at the dual degree in public policy, I think you can apply with your LSAT score. i was thinking about applying but I don't feel like running to main campus all time to do math and policy work. I think Gtown law will keep me busy enough.

I wonder if we are gonna have senators' sons and governers' nephews and diplomats' half-children in our class cause its Gtown???

TrojanChispas

  • ****
  • 4667
  • , a worthy adversary
    • View Profile
Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2005, 01:31:56 PM »
Hey there,
I am going to Gtown next fall. I will be living in the student housing too (assuming the housing lottery will not be a problem.)

I am interested in trial advocacy, moot court, and clinical work (like you) as well as international law. Gtown ranks high for all this stuff, and I think being a litigator will be much more exciting than being a transactional lawyer. Also if you focus in trial advocacy Gtown reccomends taking a wide variety of other courses that interest the student. I think that This is the type of flexibility that will be nice througout all three years.

I think that the A program is better for people who arn't sure about what direction they want to go into because it allows students to take an optional course their first year (like introduction to international law.) I am also thinking about a clerkship, does anyone know if Gtown has advantages for getting federal clerkships? or the kinds of advantages students get (aside from the obvious) of being nestled a few blocks away from all three center's of power in America?

Also to 3peat, you might want to look at the dual degree in public policy, I think you can apply with your LSAT score. i was thinking about applying but I don't feel like running to main campus all time to do math and policy work. I think Gtown law will keep me busy enough.

I wonder if we are gonna have senators' sons and governers' nephews and diplomats' half-children in our class cause its Gtown???
dude, we have almost the same exact interests :), that's cool.  i majored in international relations so international law is naturally interesting to me.
the public policy degree sounds tempting, but what does the lsat score have to do with it? 
i imagine that we are gonig to meet the kin of some very important people, but im not one of them
is anyone else ready to go to law school tommorow?  i am thinking about what i am goin to read this summer.. any suggestions?

Re: Anyone else going to GULC?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2005, 02:16:08 PM »
I believe I am headed to GULC in the fall also.  I just sent in my housing "processing fee" so hopefully I'll be able to live in student housing...the thought of searching for an apartment in a city I know nothing about does not exactly appeal to me.

It seems like a lot of people are very intrigued by the idea of curriculum B, but I thought it was a pretty small group of students in this section?  Do you have to apply to B?

And is anyone else so tired of hearing about how competitive GULC is?