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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #140 on: May 18, 2005, 02:01:49 PM »
You don't know anything about black people. ALL blacks have been affected by slavery. ALL of us. You are removed from our situation and you only see our issues on the surface. You canít dig the historical significance of our post.


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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #141 on: May 18, 2005, 02:03:33 PM »
Black = Struggle
No Black = no struggle..

That is such a sweeping and closed minded statement.  There are plenty of people that would find this comment ridiculous.. I mean, I understand the point of the post, I just dont think its fair (to anyone) to make statements that label an entire group..

 


You have the second sentence backwards.  

It is not "no black = no struggle."  As you have it written, the phrase implies that if so long as you are not black (you are white, blue, green, whatever), you are not struggling.  This is patently false--struggle and suffering affect all people of all races and creeds (white, blue, green, whatever).  

What I DID say was that it would appear that if a black person is not struggling, then they are subject to criticism for not being black enough. (no struggle = no black)

I based these remarks on observations made in my own life.  I have seen how black people who are successful are often criticized by other black people for being whitewashed, or an oreo--basically, for not being black enough.  

But how can that be?  Their skin color hasn't changed--only their level of income and education.  And if we're to the point where it is socially unacceptable in some circles to be both black AND educated with a good income, we're at a sad, sad day...


You are correct.. I did misread the second sentence.. And, as you have said.. you have conjured your opinion of blacks being ashamed of themselves, or success, or whatever.. out of your own group of friends.. This does not represent the entire population!

As a matter of fact, when I was younger I too thought it wasnt cool to get good grades.. I went from being a straight A student to getting Ds and Fs.. I was subsequently sent to a private school that straightened me out REAL quick.. My point in revealing this is to prove that this issue is not so much racial as it is cultural.. No matter what your skin color, people are going to be jealous of any successes you may have.. And weak people, like myself at the time, tend to succomb to that pressure.. Its human nature..

Not sure if this is making sense or not.. The pressure to struggle or be cool may be greater amongst people in different groups.. but I dont think its fair to classify an ENTIRE group in this manner..
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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #142 on: May 18, 2005, 02:05:06 PM »
I say there was only one president in the 20th century that really actively tried to better the plight of African-Americans and that was LBJ. The rest clearly play second fiddle to him. RBG has spoken!
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« Reply #143 on: May 18, 2005, 02:05:38 PM »
drowles- "Colin Powell is a sell out cracker" Colin Powell is a great African-American man. Don't you ever come into BLSD with this racist *&^%.

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« Reply #144 on: May 18, 2005, 02:07:07 PM »
You don't know anything about black people. ALL blacks have been affected by slavery. ALL of us. You are removed from our situation and you only see our issues on the surface. You canít dig the historical significance of our post.

This is how most blacks view our community. The vast majority of blacks view themselves as inferior. This is the truth. At the very center of black identity is self-hatred drowles. Most of us hate everything black: schools, and businesses. Most of all we hate who we are because we are not white. Itís some deep sh*t. Goes back to centuries of slavery. Slave culture was passed down from generation to generation. Think about it. Slavery didnít end 1,000 years ago. Hell, my grandmother knew someone that was a slave. Thatís some deep sh*t when you can talk to someone who actually knew a slave in this country.     

As far as black people are concerned being black has nothing to do with the color of your skin. That is why Bill Clinton was voted as one of the greatest African-Americans in this country, and Collin Powel is considered a sell out cracker. Negros are messed up man.
 


Black = Struggle
No Black = no struggle..

That is such a sweeping and closed minded statement.  There are plenty of people that would find this comment ridiculous.. I mean, I understand the point of the post, I just dont think its fair (to anyone) to make statements that label an entire group..

 

Colin Powell is a sell out cracker because he didnt stand up to George W, Bill Clinton was voted a great president because he spent a lot of his time on the current plight of African Americans.  I know several blacks who do not "hate who they are".. Its simply ridiculous to think that because a few of your friends hold this view.. or even all the blacks in your community that this is a view of the black population throughout the nation.. I dont take issue when people say "some blacks".. or "i know people who".. but when you say "all" or even "most".. you are stereotyping.. and its shameful in my opinion..

You are an immature idiot.. I am trying to have a civil discussion with you.. And by the way, I would never contend that you know NOTHING about white people just because you arent one..

We are all people dude... chill out.. we'll never get anywhere (race relation wise) with that attitude..  
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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2005, 02:08:50 PM »
suck a cock.

You don't know anything about black people. ALL blacks have been affected by slavery. ALL of us. You are removed from our situation and you only see our issues on the surface. You canít dig the historical significance of our post.

This is how most blacks view our community. The vast majority of blacks view themselves as inferior. This is the truth. At the very center of black identity is self-hatred drowles. Most of us hate everything black: schools, and businesses. Most of all we hate who we are because we are not white. Itís some deep sh*t. Goes back to centuries of slavery. Slave culture was passed down from generation to generation. Think about it. Slavery didnít end 1,000 years ago. Hell, my grandmother knew someone that was a slave. Thatís some deep sh*t when you can talk to someone who actually knew a slave in this country.     

As far as black people are concerned being black has nothing to do with the color of your skin. That is why Bill Clinton was voted as one of the greatest African-Americans in this country, and Collin Powel is considered a sell out cracker. Negros are messed up man.
 


Black = Struggle
No Black = no struggle..

That is such a sweeping and closed minded statement.  There are plenty of people that would find this comment ridiculous.. I mean, I understand the point of the post, I just dont think its fair (to anyone) to make statements that label an entire group..

 

Colin Powell is a sell out cracker because he didnt stand up to George W, Bill Clinton was voted a great president because he spent a lot of his time on the current plight of African Americans.  I know several blacks who do not "hate who they are".. Its simply ridiculous to think that because a few of your friends hold this view.. or even all the blacks in your community that this is a view of the black population throughout the nation.. I dont take issue when people say "some blacks".. or "i know people who".. but when you say "all" or even "most".. you are stereotyping.. and its shameful in my opinion..

You are an immature idiot.. I am trying to have a civil discussion with you.. And by the way, I would never contend that you know NOTHING about white people just because you arent one..

We are all people dude... chill out.. we'll never get anywhere (race relation wise) with that attitude..   

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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #146 on: May 18, 2005, 02:09:11 PM »
drowles- "Colin Powell is a sell out cracker" Colin Powell is a great African-American man. Don't you ever come into BLSD with this racist *&^%.

man, Colin Powell is just another selly on the telly. He don't care about your black ass!
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« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2005, 02:12:33 PM »
Come on HB....New BLSD...... ;)
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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2005, 02:12:52 PM »
drowles- "Colin Powell is a sell out cracker" Colin Powell is a great African-American man. Don't you ever come into BLSD with this racist sh*t.

grow up fruitcake.. you said it first.. I was simply explaining why I thought some people may have this opinion of Colin Powell.. I thought Colin Powell was a great leader, and is certainly a brilliantly intelligent man.. I am one of those individuals who didnt like how he was used as Bush's pawn to tell us about mobile nuclear launching stations and *&^%.. I also dont like Condy Rice.. But.. Barack Obama, without a doubt, gave the best speech at the democratic convention.. and, in my opinion, would make a brilliant leader for our country.. Dont try and pull the race card on me.. its ridiculous...
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Re: Home Ownership and Wealth Building
« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2005, 02:28:23 PM »
hey..let's stop with the name calling..we're all very intelligent and can articulate better than that...


We're not accepting this CHANGE UP in the rules. Period. American presidents have been in the bed with organized crime, corporate pilferers, and the like for years. And all u want to put on this man is that his pastor said "Gotdamn America?" Hell, America.U got off pretty damn well, if you ask me...