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NeverTrustKlingons

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2008, 11:10:10 AM »
canyan,

If top-school prestige was limited to BIGLAW, I would certainly agree with you. 

It's not.  Especially in this economy.  You will not be a candidate for many jobs in nonprofit law, government law (fancy a USAO internship?) and all sorts else (fancy a big-name advocacy group like ACLU?).  You are making an irreversible (unless you are top 10%) decision that you should really, really think about.

I'm a third-tier law student, so I might know something about this.  :D  I'm not saying this is the way it should be, and I'm not suggesting that the education you'll get here should be talked about as a "toilet."  But please realize that it's a ridiculously hierarchical system extending not just into big corporate law, but all avenues.
I'll never trust a Klingon.  Klingon bastards killed my son.  -- Captain James T. Kirk, USS Enterprise NCC-1701

thorc954

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2008, 11:47:54 AM »
wow thorc-  if UVA is #10 or even #24 or even #1 - its a top 25, now isn't it?  but i'm sure you are smart enough to figure that out, now aren't you.  why do people think im an idiot for not going?  I don't care!  i will have zero debt when i leave my third tier "toilet" and so i've already made 100K or so.  I think that's a d**mn good financial decision if i do say so myself.  but then again, what do i know- apparently i can't even count to 25...

wow, you are an idiot.  That is like getting accepted to harvard and saying "I got into a top 100 school." Its just plain stupid.  There are classifications for law school rankings that are well established.  Im well aware that on the chart, UVA is within the top 25 schools.  However, it is not a t25 school, its a t14 school.  the element of prestige is completely different at both.

That said, I think you are a flame and a prick.

blackpowerman

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2008, 01:25:51 PM »
thorc- i think your "semantics" are stupid-  Who cares about the hierarchal system?  You are beating that issue because you have nothing else to talk about.  The way i see it, UVA was a top 25 and i didn't care that it was a top 14 or whatever.  I'm currently top 10 at my toilet, or do i have to say "top 8" if im number 8?  Is there a different hierarchal system in class rankings?   and i don't see any problem with people getting jobs here. 
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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2008, 01:29:19 PM »
thorc- i think your "semantics" are stupid-  Who cares about the hierarchal system?  You are beating that issue because you have nothing else to talk about.  The way i see it, UVA was a top 25 and i didn't care that it was a top 14 or whatever.  I'm currently top 10 at my toilet, or do i have to say "top 8" if im number 8?  Is there a different hierarchal system in class rankings?   and i don't see any problem with people getting jobs here. 

Then you are surely a flame, because T3 grads are hurting unless they are top of the class.

thorc954

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2008, 01:50:41 PM »
thorc- i think your "semantics" are stupid-  Who cares about the hierarchal system?  You are beating that issue because you have nothing else to talk about.  The way i see it, UVA was a top 25 and i didn't care that it was a top 14 or whatever.  I'm currently top 10 at my toilet, or do i have to say "top 8" if im number 8?  Is there a different hierarchal system in class rankings?   and i don't see any problem with people getting jobs here. 

Im not beating that issue, I just think its a very strong indication that you are lying.  Oh, and top 10 at your toilet is appropriate.  On a resume I would put top 8, or just 8 though.  I would also leave the toilet part out.

I am not beating that issue because I have nothing to talk about, I am just trying to avoid saying anything offensive about TTT or TTTT schools despite the fact that they are a scam and have very little chances of paying off for those attending.  However, I realize some people have no options and that idiots can be bought with free tuition when they fail to comprehend the value of a degree.

the only tier 3 i know that doesnt have grads suffering is howard, and from what I can tell, the retention rate at law firms for howard grads is pretty pathetic.  Lots of SAs and young associates but few partners.  There are a couple of possible explanations for this gap, but this isnt the appropriate thread for that.

that said, I still think you are a flame.

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2008, 05:40:44 PM »
I know students at the median or above-median at schools ranked in the 30s, 70s, and 90s who are all hurting for jobs...

So I'd be surprised if there's no problem getting jobs from the T3.

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2008, 07:24:18 PM »
How very sad.
Like the winner he is, 2Lputz throws down, making fun of people for attending schools that aren't as prestigious as his.
Fantastic.
Of course, all the real winners out there jump into topics to blast other people and remain refreshingly off topic, starting a flame war argument that has no point and means nothing to anyone.
For all we know, 2Lass isn't even in law school.
Which brings me to my point:
Best of luck in your chosen career.
I'm sure you will never need humility, professionalism, or respect in your life.
While I'm sure you are a genius, your demeanor leaves much to be desired.
Quick question:
Are you aware that clients choose their attorney's?
Just wondering.
Elitism doesn't play well.  Not even to the elite.
And my T3 school?  My choice.  Not yours.  I'm not interested in your opinions about it, and frankly find that when you 'contribute', no one really cares much for what you say.
Again, best of luck.
Justice is tangy....

jeffislouie

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2008, 08:13:17 PM »
what a "curve" means is that you have precisely a 90 percent chance at being at the bottom of ur class since only the top 10 really matter.  do the odds, they aren't in your favor my friend. just like casino's the house always wins.

Maybe at the third tier toilet you go to only the top 10% matters, but some of us actually go to respected law schools.

My, what a huge penis you have...
Thanks for whipping it out.
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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2008, 11:24:58 PM »


My, what a huge penis you have...
Thanks for whipping it out.
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blackpowerman

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Re: Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2008, 11:55:47 PM »
And my T3 school?  My choice.  Not yours.  I'm not interested in your opinions about it, and frankly find that when you 'contribute', no one really cares much for what you say.

AMEN

And i have friends that graduated from T-4 and T-3 schools who are doing quite well.  I really think it is a case by case basis.  Anyways, I'm probably staying where im at, if i do try to transfer, the schools im looking at are ranked 80-100 so not sure if its worth it.  And who knows, I might not even be top 25 after this semester as hard as fukc as it is...oh how i hate the RAP!!
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