you are not getting my point. im not talking about the resume. if thats the case, then lets leave HLS out..and insert whatever T2 school. same issue applies. basically you are saying that not only the quality of the education is better (and im not saying that its not necessarily) but say all of the fundamentals are taught at each school. The grading is subjective of course, but the information is fundamentally the same. the only difference is the perceived quality of the students based upon their undergrad grades and lsat score...(lsat score to me is the only applicable evaluation tool) and their family name...sometimes. I went to school in japan growing up. (i am american) our education was 100000000% better than any in american public school and most private. If a kid grows up in a private school, gets good grades like most kids should, their parents pay out the ass for it, then get a good recommendation to a top notch school. go thru and since they dont have any life issues to have to worry about because their parents set them up (cant complain about that, wish i had that). they did good at school like they should have, then with good named school that they probably didnt have to pay for themselves, and average grades...3.5+ they are able to get into HLS because their pops or moms is a professional and is able to surround that kid with people that can help him score really well...like the tutors in the Firm that helped TC pass the bar. now you tell me how that student is Better than a kid that went to a state school...busted his ass, but has a kid and had to work 40+ hours a week. made good grades in college, but it took him a little longer because of family obligations. took lsat, and scored eeehh..a 160 or 164 for whatever reason that dude has to go to cooley. they are giving him money and he still has to work, but the amount of money he is getting enables him to work only parttime and still be able to take care of his fam. the second dude is garbage? the first guy is inherently better? the first dude who doesnt have mommy and daddy around doesnt do as good, but still finishes with a 2.3 and the other dude finishes with a 3.7. ok the people doing the hiring also came from the same background as the first guy, so they hire him. the second guy finishes in the top 3% of his class. but he doesnt come from ease like the first guy. he also applies to the place. he isnt hired because he is a worker bee.does that make the second guy inherently worse than the first guy? are you telling me that a 3.7 is not better than a 2.3? are you telling me that the first guy getting the 2.3 could make a 4.0 at cooley? are you telling me that the 3.7 guy couldnt do that at harvard? i know the school name is key. and i never said that i wont transfer either..im a professional, so i understand the complexities of where you did your education...im well aware. but what i have a problem with is those people that are posting on webforums all over the web that never went to cooley, are in T1 schools, and douchebagishly talk about how what they are or where they go is better than even attending in the first place. anyone that says that is a moron in my opinion! point blank. flame me all you like. but the fact remains, if you have never lived a life, then you will never understand that sometimes life throws you a curve. if you are 20 or 24 or whatever and have never done or accomplished anything but making a turd that is so long that you take a picture of it or you have to call your friends so they can see it....then i feel sorry for you. you do people a disservice by telling people that their school will suck so much that you might as well not even go. maybe someone should have told your parents that they shouldnt have had sex because their kid was going to grow up and be a feminine hygiene product! neither listened...so deal with the decision or mistake that people made. I will be at cooley in a few weeks. i will from day one be politic-ing all over the world because i know how. If the consensus is that i need to leave, then i will. if i feel like the quality of my education is garbage compared to my peers at other schools, then i will leave. if you are looking at the school that gets you a job the easiest, then you deserve that easy ass job. I on the other hand will be doing ACTUAL work. I speak 4 languages. does that make your harvard law degree better than ME? nope. does it not...nope either.just check yourself is all im saying. because unless you are actually doing the hiring, you arent saying sh*t!
umm.. first, if i was hiring, and there were ten spots and ten cooley attorneys in the top 25% of the class, I wouldnt hire any of those cooley grads. I would either hire the Harvard kids or find one of hundreds of other tier 1 kids in the top 25% of their class that are still looking for jobs.The fact is, cooley is a terrible school for extremely subpar students. Regardless of what bad *&^% happened during your life, there are plenty of people at t14 and t20 law schools that have had just as tough a time and were able to get over it and get through it. Not everyone at good schools is an elitist from a really well-off and connected family. I went to a private school for undergrad, because I pulled a 4.0 in high school and spent 60 dollars on a prep course for the SATs and as a result got nearly a full scholarship to the university. I got exceptional grades in undergrad while working part time to make ends meet and managing two clubs. Its not hard to do well once you stop making excuses for your short comings. You go to cooley though and you enjoy yourself. If you end up in the top 5% there you can compete for jobs with people in the bottom 5% of my school and, realistically, they will probably still get the job over you. That is because they proved themselves in high school to get to college and they proved themselves there. Why would any respectable employer give you a shot when you let your poor sob story of a life come in the way of your personal success?