Law School Discussion

"Right To Bear Arms"

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #190 on: August 27, 2008, 09:25:08 AM »

Right, because police are always there to keep us safe and we don't ever need to protect ourselves, our loved ones, our property, or those in our care from various rapists, burglars, thieves, carjackers, or other thugs and sickos.


Few people know to handle guns properly - you could simply miss the target and harm a bystander or whatever. It's not like the police that receives training, for instance.




Even other law enforcement personnel don't get that much training to handle guns properly but with the passing of time they manage to use them satisfactorily - it's basically a matter of experience. Are you somewhat suggesting that they need to spend a few months interning in some hot local police department?

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #191 on: August 27, 2008, 10:22:40 AM »
Well, the fact is that it's the police that deals with violent and dangerous criminals. For instance, local cops deal with many more drugs kingpins than all the other agencies put together. It's all about perception and promotion - for God's sake, Herbert Hoover was a public relations guy who could have hit big with ad campaigns!

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #192 on: August 28, 2008, 02:51:30 PM »

Well, the fact is that it's the police that deals with violent and dangerous criminals. For instance, local cops deal with many more drugs kingpins than all the other agencies put together. It's all about perception and promotion - for God's sake, Herbert Hoover was a public relations guy who could have hit big with ad campaigns!


Who's Herbert Hoover? Are you talking about the 31st President of the United States? I don't see how he relates to "campaign ads" and the like

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #193 on: August 29, 2008, 05:14:50 PM »
You've got to be kidding me with this thread - an individual who has the intent to kill will do it with whatever he finds on his way - for example, cars are known to have been used extensively as weapons. Cars as weapons are less used to kill than in road accidents, but do occur from time to time. The driver may be drunk or on drugs, or just homicidal - cars can be weapons of death just as fearful as the loaded guns.

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #194 on: September 02, 2008, 02:41:16 PM »
The "right to bear arms" is a mythology nurtured by many millions of Americans and by powerful political interests. This ugly, trigger-happy side of America cries for tighter weapons laws.

In 1791 the new American constitution was amended with the following words: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." This amendment was drawn up by people living in an precarious agrarian society unrecognisable to modern Americans, when communities needed guns to hunt and to protect themselves from Indians and highwaymen. We don't need guns anymore today to protect ourselves.

Right, because police are always there to keep us safe and we don't ever need to protect ourselves, our loved ones, our property, or those in our care from various rapists, burglars, thieves, carjackers, or other thugs and sickos.


Few people know to handle guns properly - you could simply miss the target and harm a bystander or whatever. It's not like the police that receives training, for instance.




Are you somewhat suggesting that plain folks who buy guns should be required to undergo some training just like the police so that they'd not miss the target?!

Are you aware that violence against loved ones (with fatal consequences) is primarily due to people having a gun in their home? Sure, many cases are unfortunate accidents, but many others are not. An individual trained in using a gun would not miss the target under most circumstances with the end result being killing their family members and friends.

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #195 on: September 03, 2008, 05:59:16 PM »
Oh please, stash, you are merely regurgitating the subject matter! Back and forth, back and forth! Just stop it guys!

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #196 on: September 03, 2008, 06:15:20 PM »
Actually, I think the last 3-4 posters have made quite interesting comments, latte!

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #197 on: September 05, 2008, 06:27:08 PM »
Well, what can I say, this thread sounds a little bit like that ABBA's hit "Thank You For The Music" Enjoy it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WauFkb4jmCI&feature=related

Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2008, 01:00:41 PM »

In an amazing scientific discovery, we have now come to know that antihomicidal defenses start early in life -- even before we are born, when we still inhabit the presumably cozy environment of our mother's womb. As Harvard biologist David Haig has discovered, even the womb presents its own dangers; a chief one of those is what is known as spontaneous abortions, many of which happen before a woman even knows she is pregnant. Indeed, we now know that many women who experience late periods and worry that they are pregnant, only to be relieved later when their periods begin again, have actually experienced spontaneous abortion of the growing fetus. According to Haig's findings, these often undetected miscarriages occur when the mother's body has sensed that the fetus is in poor health or possesses genetic abnormalities.

Remarkably, Haig also discovered that a defense mechanism has evolved to outwit the mother's body and protect the fetus. This is the fetal production of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), which is a hormone the fetus secretes into the mother's bloodstream. The female body appears to "interpret" high levels of hCG as a sign that a fetus is healthy and viable, and so does not spontaneously abort. Even the womb is a hostile environment where one's own interests must be protected at the cost of another's. Even in that most sacred place we are potential murder victims.




For the sake of truth, clog, hCG is produced by the placenta, not the fetus itself. Shortly after a woman's egg is fertilized by her male partner's sperm and is implanted in the lining or the womb (uterus), a placenta begins to form. This organ will help nourish the developing new life. The placenta produces hCG, whose presence, along with other hormones, helps maintain the early stages of pregnancy. After implantation, the level of detectable hCG rises very rapidly, approximately doubling in quantity every two days until a peak is reached between the weeks 6 and 8. Over the next 10 or more weeks, the quantity of hCG slowly decreases. After this point, a much lower level is sustained for the duration of the pregnancy.


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Re: "Right To Bear Arms"
« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2008, 01:57:38 PM »

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Are you aware that violence against loved ones (with fatal consequences) is primarily due to people having a gun in their home? Sure, many cases are unfortunate accidents, but many others are not. An individual trained in using a gun would not miss the target under most circumstances with the end result being killing their family members and friends.


False. Even a dumbass with no training at all would not miss the "target" under the circumstances - you're too close to your "loved ones" to miss the "target.