actually i think by most measures UW is the better university (and here i talk across the spectrum of disciplines from law to medicine to business to applied mathematics). when speaking of the law school specifically...what's a couple of points between friends (31 v. 28)? besides ND is on the drops amigo, you cannot deny a 6 point fall hurts! and yet you cannot get yourself to say "ND is not a national school" eventhough you consider every other program not in the T14 a "regional school"....oh except ND. i hope people like you never come to Wisconsin, so if you want to stay in Chi-town and be miserable that sounds fantastic...all the cold minus the skiing. we'll make fun of you when you load the family up on your rusted out honda civic (loans)covered in lame ND alumni stickers (small genitals) and make the trek up north to enjoy the scenery (FIB) only to crawl back to miserable Illinois when the weekend ends (shoot yourself now). as for passing the bar in other states, WI graduates get grandfathered into adjoining state's bars should they want to leave WI (and most do not).
as a husband and father of two kids . . . .
wow, grumpy grumpy, are you pissed GW took a drop in the ranings as well? i find it hilarious you believe you can glean so much about me from a couple little missives made to bait irritable little pricks like you and whiteyemsr. i find great humor in the fact that you feel it necessary to tell everyone that you got into ND and GW (both accept roughly one in four applicants, not overly impressive is it?). remain...in terms of peer assessment (out of 5.0) GW-3.4, ND-3.3, and UW-3.5, as for assessment score by lawyers and judges (out of 5.0) GW 3.8, ND-3.8, and UW-3.7...pretty evenly matched wouldn't you say? it would follow then that if the assumption is ND grads are solid. mind you whiteyesmr I said UW was not a national school, you merely parroted...my contention has never been that ND isn't a good school but rather that it is an overrated program (it seems the people at USNWR agree with me) and its national standing will continue to suffer as a result. the $1200 a month is huge; i argued that if you wanted to live in wisco and could go there for free (a T1 school ranked one slot-due to ties-behind ND) why would you want the debt regardless of what galley you end up apple-polishing for? i would argue that the reputation of other graduate programs has everything to do with a school's national reputation, and if you look at where UW places across the board, it is one of the top schools in the country. therefore, my dears, when you say, i went to UW, especially in professional circles . . . john 259, way to blast 260 people you don't know (the size of this year's incoming class), you are certainly much smarter than the entire bunch. and whiteyesmr, chicago is a cool town...i know people who loved it and hated it. you will want to visit Wisco when you are there however since there is very little to do out-of-doors in Illinois. While you are slaving away to benefit some partner who secretely hates you, I would avoid the Wisconsin bashing however, UW places quite well in Chicago. john 259, as a husband and father of two kids with a good circle of friends i certainly don't care what others think of me. while i don't go out of my way to alienate people in REAL life (again dude, this is pretend world here) i certainly wouldn't mind if guys like you who need to constantly remind themselves that they are important and special, stayed away.
Quote from: vercingetorix on March 30, 2007, 06:01:27 AMQuote from: johns259 on March 30, 2007, 01:34:59 AMQuote from: beamcnally on March 29, 2007, 07:26:54 PMQuote from: johns259 on March 29, 2007, 06:41:49 PMFinally, Wisconsin's rise in the rankings is a fluke and they will no doubt drop after this year's incoming class. Vaginatorix, I am glad that you took time out from your game of Dungeons & Dragons to let me know exactly how poor your incoming class must be, but I assume it's tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin if they're not from there. You're going to have to learn how to respond to arguments, read closely, and write in legible sentences before you get to law school. However, it's obvious that your 3 years in law school are going to be tough for you anyway, unless you're already used to being a social outcast, which is no doubt the case. Smart students like to hang out together, and I have a feeling you'll be left out, not just on account of your reluctance to stop dressing like some goth kid high schooler. this, coupled with the above posted "lamest comeback of all time", leads me to believe that you care nothing for facts or precision when you argue your case. you clearly slam the UW class of 2010 stating that the school will suffer because of their performance, you further insult 260 people you couldn't pick out of a line-up, along with an entire state by saying it is "tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin", you also unwittingly insult every other school ranked below UW (around 150) and all their students, many of whom probably outperformed you on the LSAT but didn't blindly leap at the highest ranked program like a good little lemming. good luck to you man, you sound like a real a-hole.
Quote from: johns259 on March 30, 2007, 01:34:59 AMQuote from: beamcnally on March 29, 2007, 07:26:54 PMQuote from: johns259 on March 29, 2007, 06:41:49 PMFinally, Wisconsin's rise in the rankings is a fluke and they will no doubt drop after this year's incoming class. Vaginatorix, I am glad that you took time out from your game of Dungeons & Dragons to let me know exactly how poor your incoming class must be, but I assume it's tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin if they're not from there. You're going to have to learn how to respond to arguments, read closely, and write in legible sentences before you get to law school. However, it's obvious that your 3 years in law school are going to be tough for you anyway, unless you're already used to being a social outcast, which is no doubt the case. Smart students like to hang out together, and I have a feeling you'll be left out, not just on account of your reluctance to stop dressing like some goth kid high schooler. this, coupled with the above posted "lamest comeback of all time", leads me to believe that you care nothing for facts or precision when you argue your case. you clearly slam the UW class of 2010 stating that the school will suffer because of their performance, you further insult 260 people you couldn't pick out of a line-up, along with an entire state by saying it is "tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin", you also unwittingly insult every other school ranked below UW (around 150) and all their students, many of whom probably outperformed you on the LSAT but didn't blindly leap at the highest ranked program like a good little lemming. good luck to you man, you sound like a real a-hole.
Quote from: beamcnally on March 29, 2007, 07:26:54 PMQuote from: johns259 on March 29, 2007, 06:41:49 PMFinally, Wisconsin's rise in the rankings is a fluke and they will no doubt drop after this year's incoming class. Vaginatorix, I am glad that you took time out from your game of Dungeons & Dragons to let me know exactly how poor your incoming class must be, but I assume it's tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin if they're not from there. You're going to have to learn how to respond to arguments, read closely, and write in legible sentences before you get to law school. However, it's obvious that your 3 years in law school are going to be tough for you anyway, unless you're already used to being a social outcast, which is no doubt the case. Smart students like to hang out together, and I have a feeling you'll be left out, not just on account of your reluctance to stop dressing like some goth kid high schooler. this, coupled with the above posted "lamest comeback of all time", leads me to believe that you care nothing for facts or precision when you argue your case. you clearly slam the UW class of 2010 stating that the school will suffer because of their performance, you further insult 260 people you couldn't pick out of a line-up, along with an entire state by saying it is "tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin", you also unwittingly insult every other school ranked below UW (around 150) and all their students, many of whom probably outperformed you on the LSAT but didn't blindly leap at the highest ranked program like a good little lemming. good luck to you man, you sound like a real a-hole.
Quote from: johns259 on March 29, 2007, 06:41:49 PMFinally, Wisconsin's rise in the rankings is a fluke and they will no doubt drop after this year's incoming class. Vaginatorix, I am glad that you took time out from your game of Dungeons & Dragons to let me know exactly how poor your incoming class must be, but I assume it's tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin if they're not from there. You're going to have to learn how to respond to arguments, read closely, and write in legible sentences before you get to law school. However, it's obvious that your 3 years in law school are going to be tough for you anyway, unless you're already used to being a social outcast, which is no doubt the case. Smart students like to hang out together, and I have a feeling you'll be left out, not just on account of your reluctance to stop dressing like some goth kid high schooler. this, coupled with the above posted "lamest comeback of all time", leads me to believe that you care nothing for facts or precision when you argue your case. you clearly slam the UW class of 2010 stating that the school will suffer because of their performance, you further insult 260 people you couldn't pick out of a line-up, along with an entire state by saying it is "tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin", you also unwittingly insult every other school ranked below UW (around 150) and all their students, many of whom probably outperformed you on the LSAT but didn't blindly leap at the highest ranked program like a good little lemming. good luck to you man, you sound like a real a-hole.
Finally, Wisconsin's rise in the rankings is a fluke and they will no doubt drop after this year's incoming class. Vaginatorix, I am glad that you took time out from your game of Dungeons & Dragons to let me know exactly how poor your incoming class must be, but I assume it's tough to get good students to spend 3 years in Wisconsin if they're not from there. You're going to have to learn how to respond to arguments, read closely, and write in legible sentences before you get to law school. However, it's obvious that your 3 years in law school are going to be tough for you anyway, unless you're already used to being a social outcast, which is no doubt the case. Smart students like to hang out together, and I have a feeling you'll be left out, not just on account of your reluctance to stop dressing like some goth kid high schooler.
curious...i stayed logged-on as i skipped to another website and found that someone (an administrator perhaps?) had actually 1. moved my entire reply into a quote box and 2. changed my words from prick to "a real not so nice person". i guess when you are dealing with such deliberate censorship, real discourse cannot continue. if this ubermenschen john 259 is representative of most law students i tremble at what will become of me this fall; such wit and blinding intellect would overawe most professors. clearly this guy got into HLS but chose GW instead (for the location). as he reminds us, he got into both ND AND GW...AND he played some kind of college sport...and he probably rushed in some frat where they shoved lincoln logs up his anus....and he still cannot reconcile in his mind why he stayed. anywho, i can't wait to meet the likes of you in school, it should make getting on law review a good deal easier.
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