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What was the difference between your average preptest score and the real LSAT?

>+5
 18 (22.5%)
+3 tor 4
 4 (5%)
+1 or 2
 8 (10%)
0
 9 (11.3%)
- 1 or 2
 2 (2.5%)
- 3 to 4
 13 (16.3%)
>-5
 14 (17.5%)
I didn't take any practice tests.
 12 (15%)

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Re: Droit de seigneur
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2008, 06:25:43 PM »

Since Madonna essentially based her career riffing off this archetype, it seems only natural. People claim that the word "virgin" in antiquity did not necessarily mean that someone never had sex. It meant instead that a woman was "without" man, which could also mean that she was an independent property owner. Some such women in classical cultures were also sacred prostitutes... or so the story goes. They acted as incarnations of the goddess. A parallel tradition exists still today in some sects of Hinduism with the devadasis. Plus there is that whole psychological trend in the modern culture called the "Virgin/Whore complex" which Madonna played to a tee. Madonna embraced and mocked the virgin/whore complex, ironically flaunted her body as a self-sold commodity and challenged the male gaze all the way to the bank. She proved that there were non-academic, street-savvy ways to express yourself and find empowerment. Madonna was a symbol of unrepressed female creativity and power — sexy, seductive, serious, and strong.


In certain so-called primitive people, a person other than the husband deflowers the fiancée. This practice is followed in order to protect the husband from danger. The bleeding that results from the loss of virginity is associated with physical wounds and death. In a number of so-called primitives, all of sexual life is wrapped in taboos. The woman is feared because of the assumed loss of virility that occurs through physical contact with her and this activates the fear of castration, especially as a result of her first sexual intercourse. But these general considerations may be inadequate. The analysis of female frigidity, however, leads us to consider such other factors as the Oedipus complex, penis envy, the desire to obtain a child from the father as reparation, and hostility towards any man who appears as a poor substitute for the true object of this ancient desire. Thus the husband who avoids deflowering his wife acts thus because he fears losing his penis and, like Holofernes, his life.


Droit de seigneur

Throughout history and in all stages of culture great emphasis has been laid on virginity. Sometimes a high positive value is set upon it as when the husband insists on his wife coming to him as a virgin, although, paradoxically, amongst certain peoples he must not have intercourse with the virgin bride, defloration and the first act of coitus being ritually performed by another. At other times virginity possesses what might be called a negative value.

Droit de seigneur, French for the lord's right, is a term now popularly used to describe a legal right allowing the lord of an estate to deflower the estate's virgins. It is also spelled droit du seigneur, but native French prefer the term droit de cuissage or droit de jambage. A related term is ius primæ noctis (also jus primae noctis), Latin for law (or right) of the first night. Droit de seigneur is often interpreted today as a synonym for ius primae noctis, although it originally referred to a number of other rights as well, including hunting, taxation, and farming.



The existence of a "right of the first night" in the Middle Ages was a disputed topic in the 19th century. Although most historians today would agree that there is no authentic proof of the actual exercise of the custom in the Middle Ages, disagreement continues about the origin, the meaning, and the development of the widespread popular belief in this alleged right and the actual prevalence of symbolic gestures referring to this right. In fact the ius primae noctis was, in the European late medieval context, a widespread popular belief in an ancient privilege of the lord of a manor to share the bed with his peasants' newlywed brides on their wedding nights. Symbolic gestures, reflecting this belief, were developed by the lords and used as humiliating signs of superiority over the dependent peasants in a time of disappearing status differences. The origin of this popular belief is difficult to trace. In the 16th century, Boece referred to the decree of the Scottish king Evenus III that "the lord of the ground shall have the maidenhead of all virgins dwelling on the same". Legend has it that Saint Margaret procured the replacement of jus primae noctis with a bridal tax called merchet. King Evenus III did not exist, and Boece included much clearly fictional material in his account. In literature from the 13th and 14th centuries and in customary law texts of the 15th and 16th centuries, jus primae noctis is also closely related to specific marriage payments of (formerly) unfree people. There is good reason to assume that this relation goes back to the early medieval period and has its roots in the legal condition of unfree people and Gaelic marriage customs.


Hahaha - you're soooooooooooooooo funny, multi!

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YA MEAN! ;)

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Re: Droit de seigneur
« Reply #101 on: June 27, 2008, 01:50:35 PM »

Since Madonna essentially based her career riffing off this archetype, it seems only natural. People claim that the word "virgin" in antiquity did not necessarily mean that someone never had sex. It meant instead that a woman was "without" man, which could also mean that she was an independent property owner. Some such women in classical cultures were also sacred prostitutes... or so the story goes. They acted as incarnations of the goddess. A parallel tradition exists still today in some sects of Hinduism with the devadasis. Plus there is that whole psychological trend in the modern culture called the "Virgin/Whore complex" which Madonna played to a tee. Madonna embraced and mocked the virgin/whore complex, ironically flaunted her body as a self-sold commodity and challenged the male gaze all the way to the bank. She proved that there were non-academic, street-savvy ways to express yourself and find empowerment. Madonna was a symbol of unrepressed female creativity and power — sexy, seductive, serious, and strong.


In certain so-called primitive people, a person other than the husband deflowers the fiancée. This practice is followed in order to protect the husband from danger. The bleeding that results from the loss of virginity is associated with physical wounds and death. In a number of so-called primitives, all of sexual life is wrapped in taboos. The woman is feared because of the assumed loss of virility that occurs through physical contact with her and this activates the fear of castration, especially as a result of her first sexual intercourse. But these general considerations may be inadequate. The analysis of female frigidity, however, leads us to consider such other factors as the Oedipus complex, penis envy, the desire to obtain a child from the father as reparation, and hostility towards any man who appears as a poor substitute for the true object of this ancient desire. Thus the husband who avoids deflowering his wife acts thus because he fears losing his penis and, like Holofernes, his life.


Droit de seigneur

Throughout history and in all stages of culture great emphasis has been laid on virginity. Sometimes a high positive value is set upon it as when the husband insists on his wife coming to him as a virgin, although, paradoxically, amongst certain peoples he must not have intercourse with the virgin bride, defloration and the first act of coitus being ritually performed by another. At other times virginity possesses what might be called a negative value.

Droit de seigneur, French for the lord's right, is a term now popularly used to describe a legal right allowing the lord of an estate to deflower the estate's virgins. It is also spelled droit du seigneur, but native French prefer the term droit de cuissage or droit de jambage. A related term is ius primæ noctis (also jus primae noctis), Latin for law (or right) of the first night. Droit de seigneur is often interpreted today as a synonym for ius primae noctis, although it originally referred to a number of other rights as well, including hunting, taxation, and farming.



The existence of a "right of the first night" in the Middle Ages was a disputed topic in the 19th century. Although most historians today would agree that there is no authentic proof of the actual exercise of the custom in the Middle Ages, disagreement continues about the origin, the meaning, and the development of the widespread popular belief in this alleged right and the actual prevalence of symbolic gestures referring to this right. In fact the ius primae noctis was, in the European late medieval context, a widespread popular belief in an ancient privilege of the lord of a manor to share the bed with his peasants' newlywed brides on their wedding nights. Symbolic gestures, reflecting this belief, were developed by the lords and used as humiliating signs of superiority over the dependent peasants in a time of disappearing status differences. The origin of this popular belief is difficult to trace. In the 16th century, Boece referred to the decree of the Scottish king Evenus III that "the lord of the ground shall have the maidenhead of all virgins dwelling on the same". Legend has it that Saint Margaret procured the replacement of jus primae noctis with a bridal tax called merchet. King Evenus III did not exist, and Boece included much clearly fictional material in his account. In literature from the 13th and 14th centuries and in customary law texts of the 15th and 16th centuries, jus primae noctis is also closely related to specific marriage payments of (formerly) unfree people. There is good reason to assume that this relation goes back to the early medieval period and has its roots in the legal condition of unfree people and Gaelic marriage customs.


Hahaha - you're soooooooooooooooo funny, multi!

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YA MEAN! ;)


Great handle, besame! I love that song!



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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #102 on: July 04, 2008, 03:49:13 PM »
I swear I know what's happening on this board -- it's really so strange! And a hell of a lot funny as well!

HAHAHA!!!! ;)

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2008, 06:52:57 PM »
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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2008, 09:29:55 PM »
What a shame - what these congressmen do is pure porn just like this one:

http://www.menatplay.com/tour?act=wmv_preview&video_id=227

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2008, 12:10:09 PM »

It's really a shame! I mean, how could people be so stupid in today's America and go ahead and reelect a hypocrite like him?


Excuse me, aren't these type of things exactly the ones for which one becomes a senator/congressman/elected official? I mean, that's what having power means, to be able to do things for which "simple" people go to jail if they do them -- go with children, kill, whatever!


I am assuming you're being sarcastic; if not, it's a shame you go to law school (if you really do)!


I wouldn't really say it's a shame s/he goes to law school (if s/he really does) -- while there are many people in law school who would cleverly get that message through by means of sarcasm, the majority of law students wouldn't even bother to apply any sarcasm at all when stating that idea.
 

How about yourself, resume? Do you care to apply "moderation" and diplomacy when talking? 'Cuz it seems to me you're being quite bold :)

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #106 on: July 30, 2008, 12:57:34 PM »
What a shame - what these congressmen do is pure porn just like this one:

http://www.menatplay.com/tour?act=wmv_preview&video_id=227


You could have left out the link..
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If you write the word "monkey" a million imes, do you start to think you're Shakespeare?

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #108 on: August 03, 2008, 12:59:37 AM »

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DmVLXUiaaXA&feature=related


Rafaella is indeed one of a kind, a great artist!


No kidding, phoenix! Take a look at her interpretation of a piece traditionally thought of as "belonging" to Marilyn Monroe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN6rIAbBASU&feature=related


Only if they satisfy the requierments

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