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DonaldR

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I was barely aware that the Congressional page program still existed, but if it wasn't already clear that it should have been ended long ago, it certainly should be now.  No, I don't think that most Congressmen or Senators would even think about doing what Foley has done, although the bipartisan page scandal in 1984 involving Democrat Gerry Studds and Republican Daniel Crane suggests it isn't unique, either.  And that one also disproves some of what you'll see on the FREEP boards that abusing teenagers is somehow exclusively the province of gays, since Crane was involved with a FEMALE page, to the best of my recollection.

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Here it is a Time Article
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2006, 07:02:32 AM »
Time to Close the Book on Washington Pages?

In the wake of the Foley scandal, some House members are calling for the suspension, if not the end, of Congress' venerable study program

By TRACY SAMANTHA SCHMIDT/ WASHINGTON

If former Speaker Tip O'Neill still led the House of Representatives today, the Congressional page program might be shut down once and for all. In 1983, he threatened to do just that in the wake of another scandal involving a Congressman and a teenage page. At the time, the House was investigating allegations that two Congressmen had sexual relations with teenage pages. Representatives Daniel Crane, an Illinois Republican, and Gerry Studds, a Democrat from Massachusetts, were eventually censured for having had sex with a female page and male page, respectively. The scandal led to changes in the page program — including raising the age of pages from 14 to 16, housing the pages in a supervised dormitory, and establishing a page board to oversee the program. "I think we have everything under control now," O'Neill was quoted as saying in the New York Times. "I don't think we ought to abolish the system. But I will say this: One more scandal and bam! The page system is through."

Twenty-three years and another sex scandal later, it's House Speaker Dennis Hastert's turn to scrutinize the page program. Facing growing criticism over his handling of the scandal, Hastert announced Thursday that he is launching an investigation to evaluate and make improvements to the program. "We will do everything possible to make the program safe for the kids while they are in our care in Washington, D.C., and to make sure we can be a resource for their parents once they return home," Hastert said at a press conference outside his office in Batavia, Ill., where he explained that while he was sorry for what had happened he had no intention of resigning his leadership position. "I haven't done anything wrong," said Hastert.

No one has yet been named to lead the investigation, though Louis Freeh, the former FBI director, was Hastert's potential pick. Before Thursday's press conference, Hastert called House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi to say that he was planning to name Freeh. Pelosi objected, telling Hastert, "We need to talk about this and we need to work in a bipartisan way," according to her press secretary, Brendan Daly. Hastert subsequently did not name Freeh at his press conference. Hastert's announcement of the investigation comes three days after Representative Ray LaHood, a fellow Illinois Republican and friend of Hastert, called for the page program to be temporarily suspendend. "This is a flawed program," LaHood told TIME. "The fact that a member of Congress is sending e-mails to a page and that he can get away with it [shows that] obviously there are problems." Two more Republican representatives, Jon Porter of Nevada and Kay Granger of Texas, also supported LaHood's reccommendation to suspend the page program until an outside team could evaluate its security protocol.

One problem is that the approximately 70 House pages are also in school. When Congress is in session during the school year, the pages attend private, junior-level classes each morning at the Library of Congress. In order not to disrupt their studies, Porter's chief of staff, Mike Hesse, suggested the pages' legislative duty be suspended while they finish up the semester at the Library of Congress. Meanwhile the Office of the Clerk, which runs the House page program, has established a toll-free hotline for current or former pages — and their parents — to report any tips related to Mark Foley or to the page program. The hotline is Hastert's own doing. "As the Speaker, I take responsibility for everything in the building," he said in a statement Thursday morning. "The buck stops here. The safety and security of the students in the page program is imperative."

The House page program is separate from the Senate's program. Approximately 30 pages are a part of that program, which is run by the Sergeant of Arms Office in the Senate. Calls inquiring possible changes to the Senate page program were not returned. Both page programs trace their roots to 1829, when Senator Daniel Webster appointed a 9-year-old boy to be his personal gopher. Since then thousands of young men — and eventually young women — have come to Washington to run errands for the members of Congress. Like many jobs in Washington, getting hired as a page often means having the right political connections. The work is also grueling, especially during the school year, when pages start class at 6:45 a.m. and can stay on the House or Senate floor late into the night.

Many pages have only fond memories of their experiences on Capitol Hill. Megan Smith recalls how much closer she got to representatives as a House page than later as a legislative aide. "The experience was much different as a page — we were sitting on the House floor for 6 or 7 hours a day," says Smith, 23, who was a page from 1999 to 2000. Yet it's exactly that intimacy with Congressmen that worries LaHood. "I think this an antiquated program — it's been over 100 years and needs a total evaluation for the sake of the kids," he said. "Having 15- and 16-year-old young men and women come to Washington, work on the House floor, and work in an environment where members of Congress if they want to can prey on them is not a healthy situation." Of course, Foley has so far been linked via e-mails and instant messages only to former pages, not to teenagers who were in the program at the time. Which means that even if the page program were terminated immediately, the potential for problems will not disappear. But it will prove that former Speaker O'Neill was more foresightful than he knew.

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2006, 07:11:52 AM »
end it . it's obvious they only get those pages there to f**ck them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Pvqe36nRs&eurl=

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Gerry Studds
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2006, 07:24:20 AM »
Gerry Eastman Studds (born May 12, 1937) is a retired American politician, born in Mineola, New York. He served as a Democratic Congressman for Massachusetts from 1973 until 1997. He was the first openly homosexual member of the US Congress and, more generally, the first openly gay national politician in the US. In 1983, he admitted to having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male page in 1973 and was censured by the House of Representatives.



Biography

Studds attended Yale University, from which he received a bachelor's degree in history in 1959 and a master's degree in 1961. Following graduation Studds was a foreign service officer in the State Department and then an assistant in the Kennedy White House, where he worked to establish a domestic Peace Corps. Later, he became a teacher at a St. Paul's School in Concord, New Hampshire.

Congress

Studds made his first run for public Congress in 1970, but lost to the incumbent Republican representative in a close election. In his second bid, in 1972, Studds succeeded, becoming the first Democrat in 50 years to win what had been considered a safe Republican seat.


Congressional page sex scandal

Studds was a central figure in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with minors – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page who was of the age of legal consent, according to state law at the time. The relationship was consensual, but presented ethical concerns relating to working relationships with subordinates.

During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgement."

Nonetheless, when the House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3, as the House read its censure motion aloud, Studds turned his back on the speaker and members in the chamber and ignored them. In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee. Studds was later appointed chair of the House Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries. Studds recieved standing ovations, not in Congress as has been reported, but in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure.


Continued service

Studds was re-elected to 5 more terms after the censure. He fought for many issues, including environmental and maritime issues, gay marriage, AIDS funding, and civil rights, particularly for homosexuals.

After Congress

Since retiring from Congress in 1997, Studds has been a lobbyist for the fishing industry. Studds previously worked for two years as executive director of the New Bedford Oceanarium, a facility still under development. Studds and his longtime partner, Dean T. Hara, who have been together since 1991, applied for a marriage license on May 18 and were married in Boston on May 24, 2005, one week after same-sex marriages became legal in Massachusetts. The Gerry E. Studds Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary, which sits at the mouth of Massachusetts Bay, is named for Studds.


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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2006, 07:28:57 AM »
Exactly, broccoli, they don't f-ing care, that's why I think the best way to protect the boys is to end the program altogether.

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2006, 10:21:43 PM »
4agn, you've got to be kidding us!

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Mentor-Protégé
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2006, 10:31:36 PM »
The program is similar to mentor relationships between professors and students in graduate training programs. Approximately one-half to two-thirds of graduate students have a mentor, and that those who do not are often unaware of the potential benefits of mentoring. Mentoring is associated with numerous personal and professional benefits. Yet, students and faculty often lack understanding of, or worse hold problematic misconceptions regarding the nature and purpose of mentor relationships.

Mentors usually serve as role models, emotional supporters/counselors, sponsors, and evaluators. Usually -- but not necessarily -- the mentor/protégé pair will be of the same sex. The roots of the practice are lost in antiquity. The word itself was inspired by the character of Mentor in Homer's Odyssey. Though the actual Mentor in the story is a somewhat ineffective old man, the goddess Athena takes on his appearance in order to guide young Telemachus in his time of difficulty. 

Famous mentor-protégé pairs include

Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Benjamin Mays and Martin Luther King, Jr.
Paul of Tarsus and Timothy
Andrew Carnegie and Napoleon Hill

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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2006, 10:36:12 PM »
Interesting, cheerleader! It appears in grad school you'll be looking for a "daddy" or a "mommy," instead of bonding with "brothers" and "sisters"! Or is it both?!

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Re: Gerry Studds
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2006, 08:03:19 AM »
Gerry Eastman Studds (born May 12, 1937) is a retired American politician, born in Mineola, New York. He served as a Democratic Congressman for Massachusetts from 1973 until 1997. He was the first openly homosexual member of the US Congress and, more generally, the first openly gay national politician in the US. In 1983, he admitted to having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male page in 1973 and was censured by the House of Representatives.



Biography

Studds attended Yale University, from which he received a bachelor's degree in history in 1959 and a master's degree in 1961. Following graduation Studds was a foreign service officer in the State Department and then an assistant in the Kennedy White House, where he worked to establish a domestic Peace Corps. Later, he became a teacher at a St. Paul's School in Concord, New Hampshire.

Congress

Studds made his first run for public Congress in 1970, but lost to the incumbent Republican representative in a close election. In his second bid, in 1972, Studds succeeded, becoming the first Democrat in 50 years to win what had been considered a safe Republican seat.


Congressional page sex scandal

Studds was a central figure in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with minors – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page who was of the age of legal consent, according to state law at the time. The relationship was consensual, but presented ethical concerns relating to working relationships with subordinates.

During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgement."

Nonetheless, when the House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3, as the House read its censure motion aloud, Studds turned his back on the speaker and members in the chamber and ignored them. In addition to the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine subcommittee. Studds was later appointed chair of the House Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries. Studds recieved standing ovations, not in Congress as has been reported, but in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure.


Continued service

Studds was re-elected to 5 more terms after the censure. He fought for many issues, including environmental and maritime issues, gay marriage, AIDS funding, and civil rights, particularly for homosexuals.

After Congress

Since retiring from Congress in 1997, Studds has been a lobbyist for the fishing industry. Studds previously worked for two years as executive director of the New Bedford Oceanarium, a facility still under development. Studds and his longtime partner, Dean T. Hara, who have been together since 1991, applied for a marriage license on May 18 and were married in Boston on May 24, 2005, one week after same-sex marriages became legal in Massachusetts. The Gerry E. Studds Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary, which sits at the mouth of Massachusetts Bay, is named for Studds.


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Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2006, 09:36:31 PM »
It's really a shame! I mean, how could people be so stupid in today's America and go ahead and reelect a hypocrite like him?