Law School Discussion


What was the difference between your average preptest score and the real LSAT?

18 (22.5%)
+3 tor 4
4 (5%)
+1 or 2
8 (10%)
9 (11.3%)
- 1 or 2
2 (2.5%)
- 3 to 4
13 (16.3%)
14 (17.5%)
I didn't take any practice tests.
12 (15%)

Total Members Voted: 68

Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?

Debra Lafave -- if this whore did not go to jail, do you think Foley will?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2006, 09:16:53 PM »

Debra Jean Beasley (born August 28, 1980) is a former reading teacher at Angelo L. Greco Middle School in Temple Terrace, Florida when she was charged with several counts of having illegal sex with a minor in 2005. LaFave, who claimed she was raped by a schoolmate at age 13, was raised by a loving but domineering mother and an attentive but remote father. She sang professionally, did some modeling, and had several relationships. After a high school lesbian affair was discovered, she cut her wrists, and entered therapy. She graduated from the University of South Florida, and began teaching remedial reading. Highly popular with the students, she occasionally dressed inappropriately, sometimes wearing a very short skirt or a low-cut blouse showing cleavage.

According to the book Gorgeous Disaster, by her ex-husband Owen Lafave, she met the 14-year-old student at an after-school tag football game. The relationship developed over a period of weeks. Shortly after school ended for the year, she drove the boy to her home and performed oral sex on him. From then, the relationship turned intimate; they had sex in the back of her SUV while it was being driven by the boy's cousin. The boy's mother soon learned of the affair. She tape-recorded conversations between the lovers, then had Lafave arrested when she drove to the boy's home to pick him up. The boy gave police an accurate description of her tattoos, tan lines, and pubic area. One European newspaper published the boy's name and photo; legal action by his mother led to it being removed from the paper's website.

Because sexual activity took place in two different counties, two separate sets of charges were filed. A trial date was set for December 5 at a court hearing after the prosecution and the defense could not agree on a plea bargain. The prosecution's plea deal involved prison time and the defense found that unacceptable. Debra's defense attorney caused a national stir that made headlines by remarking to the media that "To place Debbie into a Florida state women's penitentiary, to place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole, is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions." Owen LaFave's book suggests that this statement was an intentional ploy by the attorney.

In September 2005 it was revealed that the Temple Terrace police ordered photographs be taken of Lafave's genital area while her feet were bound up in stirrups. Shortly before the trial was scheduled to begin, the boy's mother, who had been insisting that she serve time in prison, changed her stance and agreed to a plea bargain with no prison time to save her son from having to testify in court. The trial was to be covered by Court TV. A new plea agreement was quickly worked out.

On November 22, 2005, Debra pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 3 years of Community Control (house arrest) and 7 years of probation, along with a string of other requirements. However, on December 8, 2005, the judge in the second county refused to accept plea-agreement terms that included no prison time, and set a trial date for April 10, 2006. In an unusual act, the prosecutor announced the charges were being dropped, in effect, overruling the judge. LaFave is serving probation until 2016. Her teaching certificate has been revoked, and under the "Son of Sam law", she is barred from profiting financially from the case.

LaFave attributed her indiscretions to bipolar disorder, also known as manic depression, which is associated with intense and irregular mood swings and with hypersexuality and poor judgment during manic episodes. As of September 29, 2006, Backstreet Boy Nick Carter stated on the Howard Stern show that he lost his virginity to Debra Lafave when they were classmates.

Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2006, 09:16:13 PM »

It's really a shame! I mean, how could people be so stupid in today's America and go ahead and reelect a hypocrite like him?

Excuse me, aren't these type of things exactly the ones for which one becomes a senator/congressman/elected official? I mean, that's what having power means, to be able to do things for which "simple" people go to jail if they do them -- go with children, kill, whatever!

Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2006, 02:01:58 AM »
aisha, that's NOT the way it works. At least it did not work that way in this case.

US Congress = NAMBLA
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2006, 07:24:52 PM »

hahaha, marcello, did ya really think aisha deserved a response?

NAMBLA Exposed!
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 07:53:37 PM »
Indeed, carne asada, it's sickening to see the Congress members behave like NAMBA sickos.

In August, 2003, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit against the state of Kansas over the state's criminal sodomy law involving children. The ACLU is defending Matthew Limon, a homosexual who committed sodomy against a 14-year-old boy in 2000. At the time of his crime, Limon was 18 years old. The ACLU is claiming that Limon's conviction is unconstitutionally discriminatory because the penalties for sodomy with a minor are different than for heterosexual sex with a minor.

Kansas Attorney General Phill KIine says the fairness of Limon's sentence should be a state legislative issue, not a constitutional one. According to Kline, "If the ACLU wins in the thrust of their arguments, it means the state has no right to say that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a 13-year-old child." Kline also fears that an ACLU victory will make it difficult for the state to enforce laws against polygamy, incest, bestiality, and other sexual perversions.

The effort to abolish "age of consent" laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."

In September, 1995, three homosexual activists published an essay entitled, "The State Of Gay Liberation" in Guide, a homosexual publication. The essay was authored by North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) co-founder David Thorstad, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Professor Richard D. Mohr, and San Francisco journalist Bruce Mirken.

Thorstad, of course, is a life-long pederast and homosexual activist who clearly describes the important linkage between homosexuality and pedophilia. In a speech given before a homosexual group in Mexico in 1998, Thorstad said: "Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization-and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture-ancient Greece and the Renaissance." (David Thorstad, "Pederasty And Homosexuality," NAMBLA web site)

Fellow author Professor Richard Mohr, is a homosexual activist who is an advocate for same-sex marriage and has said he hopes that homosexual marriage will help define "monogamy" out of marriage altogether. (Stanley Kurtz, "Beyond Gay Marriage," The Weekly Standard, Aug. 4-11, 2003)

Bruce Mirken is a homosexual and San Francisco journalist who was arrested in 1998 for attempting to have sex with a 13-year-old boy he had contacted through the Internet. When he entered a Sacramento park to sodomize the boy, he was met by police who had been tracking his activities on the Internet. The charges were eventually dropped against him on a technicality.

Sexual Liberation For Children

Thorstad and Professor Mohr want sexual liberation for children and Mirken believes that AIDS activism is what will help perpetuate and strengthen the homosexual movement.

According to David Thorstad, in "The State Of Gay Liberation," homosexuals must get back to a "radical vision of sexual freedom for all. We need to reaffirm our place in the great variety of same-sex behaviors that exist-have always existed-in human societies. We dare not allow our homosexual gift to be alienated from us by the limited vision, stifling political correctness, and erotophobic provincialism." In short, homosexuals should openly support the promotion of adult/child sex!

Professor Mohr argues that the use of "gay youth" is a key to gaining political and cultural victories in the U.S. He writes: "...these brave youth are key to culture's change on gay issues. Thanks to them, increasingly people know someone for whom being gay is an issue. Thanks to them the gay movement is achieving critical mass." Bruce Mirken claims that radical AIDS activism is what will save the homosexual movement from decline.

The effort to push adult/child sex isn't limited to these three homosexual activists. It is part of the overall homosexual movement. As author Mary Eberstadt wrote in "Pedophilia Chic: Reconsidered" in The Weekly Standard, (Jan. 1, 2001): "The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this 'question,' settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement." Eberstadt notes that as the homosexual movement becomes more mainstream, this "question" about adult/child sex will become more prominent. Homosexuals who desire sex with children will do exactly what the ACLU is doing in Kansas: Destroy all laws banning sex between adults and children.

Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 08:40:19 PM »
In the ancient pagan Mystery Religions, homosexuality and pedophilia were popularized. Worshippers of Baal erected shrines and temples of male prostitution (I Kings 14). Roman Emperors Nero, Caligula, and Commodus engaged in incest, sex with boys, bondage, and a variety of evil crimes. So, too, did those in Pharaoh's court. Alexander the Great was a homosexual who loved little boys.

When the Spanish Conquistadors conquered Central America and the Yucatan in Mexico, they found that most native Indian priests were sodomites. In their pagan temples were sacred statues depicting gay sex acts. In Babylon, people sacrificed and prayed to gods and goddesses requesting sexual favors and carnal pleasures.

Two versions of the official seal of the Knights Templar, precursors of the Freemasons. Note that in the version at right, the two riders carry a shield. But, in the other version of the seal (left), one's shield is gone and the knight has placed his hand in a most sensitive area of his body.

The Knights Templar and Baphomet

In the 14th century, a Catholic band of crusaders known as the Order of Knights Templar grew in power and riches. They and their leader, their Sovereign Grand Master, Frenchman Jacques DeMolay, built temples and tabernacles of worship. Only Knights Templar initiates could enter therein. Soon, reports spread of the grotesque and unseemly mode of worship of these depraved men. Their secret religion was based on worship of an androgynous (1/2 male, 1/2 female) satanic goat god named Baphomet.

In the Knights Templar rituals, a crucifix of Jesus was reviled and urinated on, and homosexual orgies were rumored. Strangely, the seal, or coat of arms, of the Order depicted two knights riding on one horse! Was this an emblem of their homosexual passion or, as the Templars protested, a statement of their "brotherly love?"

When the rumors and gossip of their antichrist activities reached a feverish pitch, the Kings of continental Europe were forced to move against the Order. Their Sovereign Grand Master, DeMolay, was tried, convicted and burned at the stake, their temples shut down. Amazingly, the Knights Templar survived, hiding out in Scotland and underground in Europe. Then, in the 1800s, they made a startling comeback in the new form of Freemasonry! Today, the Masonic youth group is even named the DeMolays. Bill Clinton, as a teenager, was a member of this organization.

Baphomet, the half male, half female goat god of the Knights Templar, was revived by Eliphas Levi, the infamous 19th century Freemason and magician and reportedly is worshipped today by homosexual cults.

"Cuomo the Homo"

Political networks of both political parties are eaten up by gay men. Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, a Democrat, has been labeled "Cuomo the Homo." New York's former Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, a Republican, has been known to dress up as a woman transvestite.

The Mayor also carried on an open affair with a female assistant. And when Giuliani and his wife separated, the Mayor moved in with two gay male friends. He now resides in the Manhattan apartment the gay couple share.

New York's Mayor Rudolph Giuliani performed on stage as "Rudia," transvestite, at the annual Inner Circle banquet for the elite. Giuliani now lives in an apartment with two homosexual men but has a female lover. Time magazine named Giuliani its "Person of the Year" for 2001.

Indeed, according to The New York Times, the Mayor actually performed in female attire, posing as "Rudia the Transvestite" at a nightclub. The occasion: The annual "Inner Circle" show.

The late Senator and Vice-President Hubert Humphrey often frolicked about nude in the YMCA swimming pool in Minneapolis. President Lyndon B. Johnson skinny-dipped with male friends, including evangelist Billy Graham and his Vice President, Hubert. In fact, the "Y" is a popular meeting place for homo politicians and religious bigwigs. The gay disco group, The Village People, in coded language revealed such wicked goings on in their national hit record tune, Y-M-C-A!

The Republicans even have a sodomite lobby group, which calls itself the Log Cabin Republicans. Senator Bob Dole heavily pandered to these "conservative" queers during his presidential campaign.

America the D a m n e d
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 11:32:14 PM »
I've been reading so much online about the current American travesties that I can't remember where I saw a list of criteria that are indicators of the imminent fall of an empire. If I remember correctly, this country is exhibiting all of them. On top of that we have horrific tales of pedophiliac priests rising out of the religious dark, and an increasing number of news stories of parents breaking apart their kids' bodies and spirits.

My son ruminates online about his painful alienation from his country of birth, and we all wait to see if something awful will happen on the day on which we celebrate the ideal that America was supposed to strive toward. No wonder we're all depressed. There is hardly anything that is in our control anymore. It makes me wonder about what exactly IS still in our control.

Maybe all we have is all we really can expect to have as humans on this planet: the challenges of daily survival; of creating ways to connect with and love each other; of working toward and celebrating small successes because the large ones will always be out of our control; of learning how to share our successes with each other so that we can all hope beyond the daily.

Perhaps we humans have gotten too arrogant. We assume that we can control -- each other, the elements, the whims of the universe. The truth is, it seems to me, that the only thing that we each have control over is our own Self. And nowhere in our upbringings or educations are we taught to understand that and how to accomplish that with love, compassion, joy, and meaningful connection. Maybe those of us who survive what comes next will be those of us who can hunker down, live small, stay connected with similar souls, wait for it all to blow over. If it doesn't blow us all up before we make it through.

Re: Do You Think The Congressional Page Program Should Be Terminated?
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2006, 03:54:00 AM »
They're going to protest today in front of the house of Hastert in Batavia given the fact that he hopes to gain the support of the a s s h o l e (Bush going to Chicago today)

Bush Defends Defenders of Child Predator
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2006, 04:28:06 PM »
Bush: Hastert, GOP unhurt by scandal
Says taxes, security will drive election

By Mark Silva,
Published October 12, 2006

WASHINGTON -- President Bush, maintaining that the congressional page scandal has neither hampered his party's chances on Election Day nor hurt the credibility of House Speaker Dennis Hastert, said Wednesday that his party's commitment to cutting taxes and protecting national security will "drive the election."

"I believe taxes are a big issue in the campaign," the president said in a Rose Garden news conference. "How best to protect the country is a big issue, a really big issue. . . . And I believe those two issues will be the issues that drive the election."

If he says so, it must be so ... LOL

Gay Republicans
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2006, 04:43:44 PM »
Beginning in the late 1970's, Republicans seized control of every branch of the U.S. government in part through vicious gay-baiting.

After Bill Clinton won his first victory in 1992, Republicans immediately and relentlessly attacked him for tolerating gays in the military.

In 2004, Bush and the Republican Party made their opposition to gay marriage the centerpiece of their campaign. They put anti-gay marriage amendments on state ballots to turn out homophobic voters. They furiously attacked John Kerry for pointing out (in a supportive way) that male private part Cheney's own daughter is openly gay.

The list below includes individuals who have been identified as gay.

- Terry Dolan
Ran NCPAC to elect far-right Republicans in the 1970's when they were attacking gay victims of AIDS. Died of AIDS.

-  David Dreier
Powerful Congressman who votes consistently against gay rights.
Closeted gay.

- James Guckert
Wrote gay-bashing articles for right-wing Talon News service. Gay prostitute.

- Ken Mehlman
Ran George Bush's 2004 campaign with anti-gay marriage as central issue; now Chairman of the Republican Party. Closeted gay.

- Armstrong Williams
Regularly attacked gay marriage on CNN. Settled gay sex harassment lawsuit for $200K.

- John Lowndes
Outed and divorced from the Christian Coalition.

- Tod Burnett
Environmental Protection Agency. (Burnett is a former advisor to liberal Republican and former Los Angeles mayor Richard Riordan).

- Donald Capoccia
Serves on a national arts commission.

- Scott Evertz
White House Office of National AIDS. (Active member of the Log Cabin Republicans).

- Stephen Fong
Federal Transit Administration. (former president of Log Cabin Republicans of San Francisco).

- Michael E. Guest
U.S. ambassador to Romania. (Only second open homosexual ever to represent America as a national ambassador)
- Stephen Herbits
Special consultant to the Secretary (screens job applicants at the Pentagon.) Herbits an original member of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation and raised funds for numerous gay and lesbian community organizations.

- Mark Groombridge
State Department special assistant to John Bolton, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security. Groombridge is a member of Log Cabin Republicans of D.C., and the homosexual libertarian group Gays & Lesbians for Individual Liberties.

- Jim Wiggins
Environmental Protection Agency.
- Jim Kolbe (R) Ariz.
U.S. House of Representatives

- Karl Rove
Rove is known to frequent gay bars alone, both in DC and in Austin.

- Scott McClellan