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mother in law

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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #250 on: July 21, 2008, 05:26:13 PM »
I think the State Department should order its embassies to limit the help they give visiting Obama/McCain so as to avoid violating U.S. laws. U.S. diplomats should not set up meetings for the candidates, arranging receptions or public events or use official funds and resources, beyond a de minimis level, to support a political trip. The embassies conceivably could assist the candidates' Secret Service protective details and provide "de minimis" help on logistical matters, for example giving the trip organizers information on how to make local travel arrangements. Under U.S. law, there are restrictions on the partisan political activities of federal employees to prevent government workers from exerting undue influence on elections. McCain visited Iraq in mid-March, his 8th trip to the country since the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion to topple former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Obama, an Illinois Democrat who has made his opposition to the invasion the centerpiece of his campaign, is making the foreign trip in part to bolster his foreign policy credentials. He is also expected to visit Jordan, Israel, Britain, France and Germany.
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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #251 on: July 21, 2008, 05:47:50 PM »
I think the State Department should order its embassies to limit the help they give visiting Obama/McCain so as to avoid violating U.S. laws. U.S. diplomats should not set up meetings for the candidates, arranging receptions or public events or use official funds and resources, beyond a de minimis level, to support a political trip. The embassies conceivably could assist the candidates' Secret Service protective details and provide "de minimis" help on logistical matters, for example giving the trip organizers information on how to make local travel arrangements. Under U.S. law, there are restrictions on the partisan political activities of federal employees to prevent government workers from exerting undue influence on elections. McCain visited Iraq in mid-March, his 8th trip to the country since the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion to topple former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Obama, an Illinois Democrat who has made his opposition to the invasion the centerpiece of his campaign, is making the foreign trip in part to bolster his foreign policy credentials. He is also expected to visit Jordan, Israel, Britain, France and Germany.


mother in law, why do you make it appear like you've written the piece yourself? Why don't provide the references?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080721/pl_nm/usa_politics_embassies_dc_1;_ylt=AhVB.6liucI_BBJL71ETbVxh24cA
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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #252 on: July 22, 2008, 06:27:26 PM »
You have a valid point, foveal.. however, I don't think mother somehow intended to take credit for the "idea"...
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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #253 on: July 27, 2008, 03:58:54 PM »
With the recent visit to Germany casting himself as a "citizen of the world," he might well think in these terms as well...


The Internationale is the international song of both Marxist and non-Marxist socialist parties. It was written in French by Eugene Pottier, a wood-worker from Lille, after the fall of the Paris Commune of 1871, and set to music by P. Degeyter.

The "Internationale" referred to is the International Working Men's Association, the so-called First International (1864­76), part of which had supported the Commune. It has been used across the world as a song of resistence to oppression. Perhaps its most dramatic use in recent years was its repeated singing by the students in Tiananmen Square in 1989 - although, curiously, the western press did not comment on this.


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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #254 on: July 28, 2008, 11:50:33 AM »
With the recent visit to Germany casting himself as a "citizen of the world," he might well think in these terms as well...


The Internationale is the international song of both Marxist and non-Marxist socialist parties. It was written in French by Eugene Pottier, a wood-worker from Lille, after the fall of the Paris Commune of 1871, and set to music by P. Degeyter.

The "Internationale" referred to is the International Working Men's Association, the so-called First International (1864­76), part of which had supported the Commune. It has been used across the world as a song of resistence to oppression. Perhaps its most dramatic use in recent years was its repeated singing by the students in Tiananmen Square in 1989 - although, curiously, the western press did not comment on this.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPFlyrvEb8M

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HNaFP9o2Xz4


Great signature and illustration, situation - funny and witty as always, situation! ;)

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Re: Allegations of Homosexuality, Drug Abuse
« Reply #255 on: July 28, 2008, 07:14:38 PM »
The press is ridiculuous ... look what they published today

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Once Again, It's The Economy, Stupid
« Reply #256 on: July 28, 2008, 09:46:01 PM »

[...] "I'm heartbroken that I won't get to see you today," Obama said by phone to the crowd of about 150 people gathered in the media center at Martin Middle School. "But I will get back to Charlotte." Charlotte was to have been the first stop in a four-state trip to discuss the troubled U.S. economy. In his 10-minute-long remarks to the group at Martin Middle School, Obama said he picked Charlotte as the starting point because it is an example of an area that has experienced strong economic growth "but is now experiencing tough economic times."


Washington, D.C. - Just back from a whirlwind foreign tour, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's "Rolling Thunder Revue" stopped in Washington Monday for a meeting on the economy with former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker, Google chief Eric Schmidt and -- phoning in -- billionaire Warren Buffett. Not to be outdone, John McCain's campaign assembled former Hewlett-Packard boss Carly Fiorina, ex-eBay boss Meg Whitman and renowned economist Martin Feldstein on a call with reporters early in the day, to defuse the boom coming from the Obama camp. "I think it's good that Barack Obama is consulting some experts today," Fiorina quipped, adding that the Illinois senator "does not understand the economy." Ouch. With unemployment and inflation rising, stock indexes drooping and less than 100 days to go until Nov. 4, both campaigns seemed to awaken Monday to the realization that the economy -- not Iraq -- may decide the election. According to a just-released Gallup poll, a stunning 75% percent of Americans have negative views about the economy. Obama and McCain will spend most of the next three and a half months fervently fighting over who has the better remedy.

What's ahead? Expect the battle to quickly become a referendum on whether President Bush's economic policies -- many of which McCain would continue -- are good for the country. McCain thinks the way out of the mess is to push a pro-business plan on taxes, trade and energy. He wants to keep the Bush tax cuts in place, lower the maximum corporate income tax rate from 35% to 25% and implement a permanent research and development tax credit based on wages. McCain is expected to continue Bush's push for free trade agreements, including pending deals with South Korea and Colombia. The GOP senator favors offshore drilling for oil and natural gas and wants to build 45 new nuclear plants in the U.S. by 2030. Obama calls for more tax benefits to individuals but more taxes on high-income earners. He would keep in place some of the Bush tax cuts and institute a permanent R&D credit. He would increase the maximum capital gains tax rate from 15% to 25%, tax hedge funds managers' share of their clients' earnings as ordinary income rather than capital gains, and implement a payroll tax surcharge on people who earn more than $250,000 annually.

On trade, Obama suggests renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement, and implementing strong environmental and labor provisions in future trade deals. He wants to see a permanent renewable-energy tax credit to promote investment in wind and solar resources. He's in favor of legislation that would help workers join unions if they wish. What do the two approaches have in common? Both could prove expensive. A recent study by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank, says both candidates "have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years" -- Obama by $3.4 trillion, McCain by $5 trillion. The White House said Monday the federal deficit will reach a record $482 billion in fiscal year 2009--about $75 billion more than previously thought, thanks to the recent economic stimulus and economic downturn. Meeting with Forbes.com last week, McCain's top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, took a swipe at Obama's economic proposals, suggesting that they would detract from foreign investment in the U.S. and contribute to the weak dollar. The Obama camp gets a rebuttal this week, when its senior economic adviser, Jason Furman, speaks with Forbes.com.

Professor Larry Sabato, a political analyst at the University of Virginia, says McCain's economic Achilles' heel is his same-party affiliation with Bush. "People always blame the incumbent for bad economic times," he says. For Obama, a possible weakness is his tax policy -- but only "if McCain plays it right." The Republican candidate not only has to show how Obama would raise taxes; he must also show voters how it would affect them, Sabato says. If that's right, McCain better start moving. He's trailed Obama since the Illinois senator clinched the Democratic nomination in early June, and McCain's now behind by eight percentage points in Gallup's most recent survey.

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George Soros, Diamond Cartels, and the Push for Africa's Destruction
« Reply #257 on: August 10, 2008, 10:23:10 PM »

[...] For years, George Soros and his NGOs, for instance, have gone about their work extending the boundaries of the "free world" so skilfully that hardly anyone noticed. Now a Texan redneck and a gang of overzealous neo-cons have blown it. As a cultivated and educated man Soros knows too well that empires perish when they overstep the mark and provoke the formation of counter-alliances. [...]



Soros was 13 years old when Nazi Germany took military control over its wavering ally Hungary (March 19, 1944), and started exterminating Hungarian Jews in the Holocaust. Soros worked briefly for the Jewish Council, which had been established by the Nazis, to deliver messages to Jewish lawyers being called for deportation. Soros claims he was not aware of the consequence of the messages. To avoid his son being apprehended by the Nazis, his father had Soros spend the summer of 1944 living with a non-Jewish Ministry of Agriculture employee, posing as his godson. In the following year, Soros survived the battle of Budapest, as Soviet and Nazi forces fought house-to-house through the city. Soros first traded currencies during the Hungarian hyperinflation of 1945-1946.

In 1946, Soros escaped the Soviet occupation by participating in an Esperanto youth congress in the West. He (Soros) emigrated to England in 1947 and graduated from the London School of Economics in 1952. While a student of the philosopher Karl Popper, Soros funded himself by taking jobs as a railway porter and a waiter at Quaglino's restaurant where he was told that with hard work he might one day become head waiter. He also worked in a mannequin factory, but was fired for being too slow at putting on the heads. He eventually secured an entry-level position with London merchant bank Singer & Friedlander. In 1956 he moved to the United States, where he worked as an arbitrage trader with F. M. Mayer from 1956 to 1959 and as an analyst with Wertheim and Company from 1959 to 1963. Throughout this time, Soros developed a philosophy of "reflexivity" based on the ideas of Popper. Reflexivity, as used by Soros, is the belief that the action of beholding the valuation of any market by its participants affects said valuation of the market in a procyclical 'virtuous or vicious' circle.


In actuality George Soros is destabilizing the Balkans and is creating a haven for drug trafficking. Soros, the multi-billionaire funder of progressive causes, has made no secret of his desire for drug legalization. The wish has made Soros a darling for not only progressives but libertarians as well. However, according to FBI sources, Soros' support for the destabilization of the Balkans, particularly the cause of Kosovo's independence, has enabled drug trafficking in the region to increase exponentially. FBI intercepts of Turkish and Albanian intercepts have shown collusion between certain Western "pro-democracy" non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and the Kosovo drug trade. Soros' Open Society Institute (OSI) and his stewardship of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty helped elevate, with the help of then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) leader Hashim Thaçi from terrorist thug and drug and arms smuggler to Prime Minister of an independent Kosovo. Kosovo, along with Israel and Greek Cyprus, now plays host to organized criminal syndicates from around the world, particularly elements of the Russian-Israeli mafia and its affiliates. Independent Kosovo now serves as an important hub for the distribution of heroin from Afghanistan and cocaine from Colombia (mostly via Guinea-Bissau in West Africa). Afghanistan and Colombia are both surrogates of the United States and examples of the marquis "democratization" pushed by OSI and Freedom House and the International Crisis Group, other contrivances funded by Soros. The Albanian government, also enmeshed in drug smuggling, provides important diplomatic and political cover for the Kosovo criminal syndicates.


July 17, 2008 (LPAC) -- Anglo-Dutch cartels in oil, strategic minerals, and diamonds, have looted and despoiled Africa for decades after that continent's nominal independence from the European empires. They have employed regime-changes and manipulated wars involving the cartels' private armies, British special forces and other criminal "irregulars." In recent years, the destruction has intensified under the cover of a reform movement guided by this same imperial force, aiming to end national sovereignty and finally erase all resisting African governments. Headed by billionaire speculator and narcotics promoter George Soros, in open collaboration with the cartels themselves, this movement is leading the continent into chaos, perpetual war, enforced backwardness, and unchecked pandemics and starvation. The Open Society Institute and related Soros enterprises fund and herd uncountable thousands of private groups and globalist agencies, seeking to overthrow African governments and seize natural resources, in the name of fighting tyranny and corruption. One side of this nightmare is the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI). It began when the George Soros organization known as "Publish What You Pay," aided by propaganda from the Soros-funded Global Witness group, demanded that nations with valuable natural resources be compelled to turn over to mutinational cartels and to the British government, all records of their transactions on these resources -- so as to stop bribes!

In 2002, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Johannesburg, announced he had accepted this Soros proposal. In 2003 Blair formed the EITI as a London-based global agency, which would seek to pull in the United States and would attempt to enforce open domination over world resources. Led originally by Anglo-Dutch Shell Oil, DeBeers, and Anglo American, EITI's participating corporations now include include such mining companies as AngloGold Ashanti, Barrick Gold, BHP Billiton, DeBeers, Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold, Gold Fields, Katanga Mining Limited, Newmont, Rio Tinto; and oil companies such as Chevron, ConocoPhilips, Eni, ExxonMobil, Hess, Pemex, and Petrobras. In 2006, EITI's governing secretariat was set up in Norway and placed under Soros management, with money from Open Society Institute and EITI board members from Soros agencies Publish What You Pay, Revenue Watch Institute, and Global Witness. To launch EITI as a Soros arm, then-World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz (an architect of the Iraq catastrophe) came to Norway and did a press conference on the need to direct the "revenue stream from extractive industries" in "developing countries."

"Conflict diamonds" have provided the propaganda power behind the Soros Initiative.

As world opinion was revulsed by accounts of genocidal wars over African diamonds, gems used as currency by mafias, mercenaries, and militias, the Soros group Global Witness, in tandem with the top diamond companies, shaped the issue of "blood diamonds" towards London's objectives. In 2000, the {World Diamond Council} was set up in Brussels, Belgium, led by DeBeers (historically Cecil Rhodes/Rothschild) of London and South Africa; by DeBeers agent Maurice Tempelsman, head of New York-based Lazare Kaplan diamond company; and by Israeli diamond billionaire Dan Gertler and his family. The World Diamond Council's "reforms" of the industry's looting are approved by Global Witness and are an integral part of the EITI's agenda. Belgian-born Maurice Tempelsman started out in the former Belgian Congo. After the 1961 murder of nationalist prime minister Patrice Lumumba, Tempelsman hired as his liasion to the replacement government the former CIA station chief there, Larry Devlin, who had been ordered to murder Lumumba but claims others did it. From his Congo base, Tempelsman participated in the work-up to the British coup against Ghana's nationalist President Kwami Nkruma. Tempelsman became the number one U.S.-based affiliate of DeBeers and London's world diamond cartel. Tempelsman lived with President John Kennedy's widow, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, from the mid-1970s until her 1994 death. A power in the post-JFK Democratic Party alongside Felix Rohatyn and George Soros, Tempelsman is a director of the National Democratic Institute component of the National Endowment for Democracy that funds Global Witness and many other Soros fronts.

Israeli rightwinger Dan Gertler is the grandson of Moshe Schnitzer, founder of Israel's diamond industry, and the nephew of Schmuel Schnitzer, vice chairman of the World Diamond Council in charge of the Council's liaison with governments and the UN. In the Bush-Cheney era, Gertler has taken over from Maurice Tempelsman the role of unofficial representative of the U.S. government in the Congo. In partnership with other Israeli billionaires and with rightist politicians such as Avigdor Lieberman, Gertler arranged with former Congo president Laurent Kabila to set up a diamond monopoly in exchange for Israeli arms and military training. In 2006, Gertler gave London-Zimbabwe-South Africa arms trafficker John Bredenkamp $60 million for mineral property in the Congo, shortly before police raided Bredenkamp's home and office in England in the (soon aborted) probe of BAE Systems arms-deals corrupton in South Africa. The Bredenkamp deal allowed Gertler to become top shareholder in London's Camec, the copper and cobalt mining giant in Congo. With this apparatus behind him, George Soros is doing to Africa what he did in his native Hungary in 1944, when he helped the Nazi occupiers in the extermination of the Jews.

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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #258 on: August 14, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »
Excuse me, but what relation do Soros's businesses bear with Obama's candidacy and the like?

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Re: Presidential Hopeful ...
« Reply #259 on: August 15, 2008, 04:02:27 AM »
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